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April 18, 2019, 12:31 PM | #1 |
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In the Rain with Dad's model 97
When my dad returned home after his stint with the Marines in the South Pacific, one of the first things he did was buy a good shotgun. It was used and almost 30 years old when he bought it in 1945. It was his only firearm for a dozen years and he used it for upland game and deer. When I turned 12 in 1966, I used it for hunting deer also, since the rifles(other than his) went to my mom and two sisters that also hunted. He continued to use it for Pheasants/grouse and waterfowl up until the mid seventies when he bought himself a model 1100. It then sat in his closet until he died and I inherited it. Just for old times sake and in his memory(he's been gone for 14 years), I still occasionally use it for pheasants and turkey. Since it only shoots 2 3/4" shells, turkeys gotta be pretty close. This one today was a 12 yards in the pourin' rain. I didn't think it was too bad for a 65 year old guy using a 102 year old gun..
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April 18, 2019, 01:12 PM | #2 |
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GOOD JOB. I guess that debunks the new thoughts that turkey and deer have Teflon hides and feathers and old school rifles-shotguns will not take them.
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April 18, 2019, 04:06 PM | #3 |
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How old was the turkey? Haha, that just seemed to fit when you were listing ages.
That's a darn good looking picture you shot. I know zilch about turkey except that all I've ever heard is that it is difficult to get that close. How did you get that close, is the downpour of rain and associated noise and possible sense-masking the key?
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April 18, 2019, 04:48 PM | #4 |
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I have its twin inherited from my dad. I have been thinking it needs to go on a turkey hunt.
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April 18, 2019, 05:35 PM | #5 |
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Nice old gun. It's probably full choke, most of them were back in the day and I bet it does a good job even with 2 3/4" shells. I have 3 older shotguns belonging to my dad, grandfather and great grandfather.
The older ones are no longer safe to shoot although one appears to look good. But with damascus barrels I just retired it. As a kid I hunted with it quite a bit before finding out about the barrels. But I try to get dad's gun out for at least one hunt each year. He too was a WW-2 vet and it is a war trophy. When the Germans surrendered dad was in a small German village. They had just searched each home and confiscated all weapons and were preparing to destroy them. There was a gun shop in town and dad picked out an FN made SXS 12 ga. with the price tag still hanging on the trigger guard. He built a wooden box and mailed it back home.
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April 18, 2019, 06:32 PM | #6 | |
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Because of it's age and sentimental value, I rarely use the 'ol 1897, but I feel I owe it to the gun and my dads memory to take it out occasionally and use it for what it was designed.....and it still works very well for that intent. I hope someday my son will take down a long beard with it too, just to pass on the tradition. |
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April 18, 2019, 06:35 PM | #7 |
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So many of the yout's of today are so willing to tell ya that it takes a 3" or 3-1/2" 12ga to kill ducks, geese, and turkeys but somehow they were all killed back in the days their ancestor's were using black powder muzzle loaders. I can tell you from experience that duck hunting and turkey hunting in Arkansas was harder when I was a kid than it is today and still people killed them. Geese were so scarce nobody I knew even tried to hunt them. As usual it's not the gun but rather the hunter's skill that matters.
ETA - My Grandfather's old Model 12 has killed squirrels, ducks, turkey, and deer that I know of. Most likely rabbits, doves, and blackbirds too. Back in Grandfather's day a blackbird pie was a welcome addition to the menu too. Good job with the '97. Last edited by 1MoreFord; April 19, 2019 at 04:41 PM. |
April 18, 2019, 09:43 PM | #8 |
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just grand
What a great story and a job well done with an heirloom firearm.
Not to sidetrack the thread, but what load are you using in the old gun? Not that it would have mattered at 12 yds!!!!! Winchester is loading a standard pressure, 12 gauge, 1-1/4 oz XR turkey load that uses the same technology as their excellent 3" and 3-1/2 loads. I have bought some for my grandad's 1921 Savage pump, but hav not patterned any yet. |
April 18, 2019, 10:51 PM | #9 |
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Beautiful old gun and good job with the turkey.
My experience turkey hunting is limited to two styles: waking up in the dead of night, sneaking to my pre-scouted spot, settling in, waiting for the sun to come up, calling hard for hours like I read in the books, being mocked by turkeys Vs Wake up, get coffee, go sit in the little ravine 300 yards behind the barn and a turkey walks up and shouts “come on! Shoot me!” I do like it, but turkey hunting is maddening. |
April 19, 2019, 01:09 AM | #10 |
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Nice! I have an 1897 pretty much just like that one.
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Congratulations on the beautiful bird. Hope you have many more seasons to enjo that shotgun.
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