Reasonable groups

Mtschust · February 20, 2007, 12:17 AM

What is a decent group from 7 yards with a 9mm or .45 I have not been able to put more than a couple shots on top of each other and feel I need more training. Any book or video reccomendations?

capbuster · February 20, 2007, 12:50 AM

since you are shooting at 7 yards I would imagine that you are working on defensive type shooting skills. you might pick up some cheap paper plates to use as targets. at 7 yds try to get center hits with your handgun. with a little practice you should be getting a group about the size of your fist. when you really start tearing the center out,move your paper plate out farther such as 15 yards. This will give you a new challenge. later you can try your hand at 25yards and beyond.use varibles such as shooting strong hand only,weak hand only,drawing and shooting, and shooting from a ready position to name a few.

Mtschust · February 20, 2007, 12:53 AM

THe range I have been going to only has a 50 foot facility. I have been guessing about the distance to the target because the distances are not marked. Also, is a group a full magazine, ten shots, or what? I have just been putting like ten or more rounds in the target, checking it out and then continuing on.

Lurper · February 20, 2007, 01:39 AM

A "decent group" depends on the purpose you are shooting for. If you are shooting for pure accuracy, you should be able to shoot 1-2" group at 7 yards. If you are shooting for practical purposes, then the group size is only equally as important as the speed with which you hit the target. Being able to shoot a 1" 5 shot group means nothing if it takes you 5 or 6 seconds to do so. On the other hand, a 8" group in half that time is decent in practical terms.

JDG · February 23, 2007, 05:36 PM

I'm happy with groups like in my pic at 25', that was aimed fire, with a second to reaim between shots.If I'm drawing from my holster and quickly putting 2 shots on target, I'm happy keeping everything on a paper plate

February 20, 2007, 12:17 AM	#1
Mtschust Member Join Date: March 16, 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 89	Reasonable groups What is a decent group from 7 yards with a 9mm or .45 I have not been able to put more than a couple shots on top of each other and feel I need more training. Any book or video reccomendations?

February 20, 2007, 12:50 AM	#2
capbuster Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 1999 Location: Bessemer,Alabama Posts: 302	since you are shooting at 7 yards I would imagine that you are working on defensive type shooting skills. you might pick up some cheap paper plates to use as targets. at 7 yds try to get center hits with your handgun. with a little practice you should be getting a group about the size of your fist. when you really start tearing the center out,move your paper plate out farther such as 15 yards. This will give you a new challenge. later you can try your hand at 25yards and beyond.use varibles such as shooting strong hand only,weak hand only,drawing and shooting, and shooting from a ready position to name a few. __________________ cliff

February 20, 2007, 12:53 AM	#3
Mtschust Member Join Date: March 16, 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 89	indoor range THe range I have been going to only has a 50 foot facility. I have been guessing about the distance to the target because the distances are not marked. Also, is a group a full magazine, ten shots, or what? I have just been putting like ten or more rounds in the target, checking it out and then continuing on.

February 20, 2007, 01:39 AM	#4
Lurper Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2006 Posts: 943	A "decent group" depends on the purpose you are shooting for. If you are shooting for pure accuracy, you should be able to shoot 1-2" group at 7 yards. If you are shooting for practical purposes, then the group size is only equally as important as the speed with which you hit the target. Being able to shoot a 1" 5 shot group means nothing if it takes you 5 or 6 seconds to do so. On the other hand, a 8" group in half that time is decent in practical terms.

February 23, 2007, 05:36 PM	#5
JDG Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: West Michigan Posts: 673	I'm happy with groups like in my pic at 25', that was aimed fire, with a second to reaim between shots.If I'm drawing from my holster and quickly putting 2 shots on target, I'm happy keeping everything on a paper plate