Humidity and gun safes - Page 2

REL1203 · April 20, 2010, 10:36 AM

Where can you thread a power cord through?

ZeSpectre · April 20, 2010, 10:45 AM

Most safes have a pre drilled hole. You run this style of cord through and then attach it to a surface mount power socket like this one and mount the power socket inside.

F. Guffey · April 20, 2010, 11:26 AM

Refrigerator compressors run on electricity, the pot is sealed against the atmosphere and run on pressure and a vacuum, the safe is too low tech?, I purchases a (small) bull eye (Louisiana light strapped to the head for alligators, coon hunting and I suppose going through the safe when the electricity is off), it has a lot of uses and cost less than $4.00 from Harbor Freight, it works great until the grand children find out where the switch is located.

F. Guffey

oneounceload · April 20, 2010, 12:20 PM

If you have a predrilled hole for a goldenrod dehumidifier, you can fit another cord through (or do what I did and drilled a hole from the inside out - took a few minutes but it wasn't hard)

Brandy · April 20, 2010, 12:32 PM

I see the extremes. In WY I put two cans of damp rid in the bottom of the safe and replace the product once a year. In Fl, a whole different story. We hardly ever use A/C so humidity is 80%-100%. The best thing I have found is to treat guns with the Brownells anti rust oil, put the guns in the cases with the Intercept technology (made by Boyt, available from Sinclair) and put an old sock filled with Brownells dessicant in the case. Each gun is uncased every two months and the dessicant checked for color change (it can be "baked" to refresh it). The cases are expensive but so far have worked 100% perfectly and a lot cheaper than what I had to pay to have a Sauer drilling's barrel re-rustblued after they got rust spots in 2 weeks in a brand new "rustproof" silicon treated sleeve..

http://www.boytharness.com/catalog/a...tion=1&x=0&y=0

Also found them at a substantial discount from Opticsplanet.
The LE is a shotgun case, the LER a scoped rifle case, all are $49.99 each, just ordered four more LER 46" ones.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/boyt-har...ment-case.html

highvel · April 22, 2010, 12:09 AM

The higher the temp the higher humidity, that being said, what you want is constant temp,i.e (heated rod) so the humidity is constant. If the temperature is fluctuating the cooler steel will condense moisture out of the warmer air and corosion will occur. That is why the steel condenses moisture on it when you go from a cold place like outside into a warm room, it will not condense when you go from warm to cold.

If you use a constant temp and find your humidity is too high for your storage area your best bet is desicant dryers of some form or another, however you need to have some humidity in the air, if you remove too much you can end up with damaged wood finishes, or cracked stocks from too low a humidity level.
Just my two cents

JStetson · April 23, 2010, 01:52 AM

We've had a lot of customers who have either fabricated their door jams with a small seal or have used moisture absorbers like the "Keep it Dry" Closet Dehumidifier.

Hope this helps.

Venom1956 · April 25, 2010, 02:30 AM

I am in WI and currently have my guns stored in the basement... No other viable option. Winter its easy to keep them around 20% humidity but now since its warmer the basement is much more damp I have a heat rod and silica packs. Its around 40% percent. Thinking about Borestores as well. Anyone else find that to be acceptable humidity levels?

Brandy · April 25, 2010, 11:05 AM

The Sportsman Warehouse for shotguns and conventional scoped rifles (not ARs). They really do work...heck if they work in Key West they'll work anywhere!

a1abdj · April 26, 2010, 09:51 AM

Quote:

I am in WI and currently have my guns stored in the basement... No other viable option. Winter its easy to keep them around 20% humidity but now since its warmer the basement is much more damp I have a heat rod and silica packs. Its around 40% percent. Thinking about Borestores as well. Anyone else find that to be acceptable humidity levels?

45% to 55% at 70 degrees is ideal for guns. This is especially true if you are storing guns with wood stocks or leather accessories. To little humity will draw moisture out of wood and leather causing damage.

I would keep the dry rod, and get rid of the silica. I would also get a hygrometer to keep an eye on the actual humidity level within the safe.

April 20, 2010, 10:45 AM	#27
ZeSpectre Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Shenandoah Valley Posts: 3,276	Most safes have a pre drilled hole. You run this style of cord through and then attach it to a surface mount power socket like this one and mount the power socket inside. __________________ "The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on"

April 20, 2010, 12:32 PM	#30
Brandy Junior member Join Date: March 31, 2010 Posts: 151	Living in Key West and Wyoming I see the extremes. In WY I put two cans of damp rid in the bottom of the safe and replace the product once a year. In Fl, a whole different story. We hardly ever use A/C so humidity is 80%-100%. The best thing I have found is to treat guns with the Brownells anti rust oil, put the guns in the cases with the Intercept technology (made by Boyt, available from Sinclair) and put an old sock filled with Brownells dessicant in the case. Each gun is uncased every two months and the dessicant checked for color change (it can be "baked" to refresh it). The cases are expensive but so far have worked 100% perfectly and a lot cheaper than what I had to pay to have a Sauer drilling's barrel re-rustblued after they got rust spots in 2 weeks in a brand new "rustproof" silicon treated sleeve.. http://www.boytharness.com/catalog/a...tion=1&x=0&y=0 Also found them at a substantial discount from Opticsplanet. The LE is a shotgun case, the LER a scoped rifle case, all are $49.99 each, just ordered four more LER 46" ones. http://www.opticsplanet.net/boyt-har...ment-case.html Last edited by Brandy; April 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM.

April 22, 2010, 12:09 AM	#31
highvel Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2010 Location: Powhatan VA Posts: 633	The higher the temp the higher humidity, that being said, what you want is constant temp,i.e (heated rod) so the humidity is constant. If the temperature is fluctuating the cooler steel will condense moisture out of the warmer air and corosion will occur. That is why the steel condenses moisture on it when you go from a cold place like outside into a warm room, it will not condense when you go from warm to cold. If you use a constant temp and find your humidity is too high for your storage area your best bet is desicant dryers of some form or another, however you need to have some humidity in the air, if you remove too much you can end up with damaged wood finishes, or cracked stocks from too low a humidity level. Just my two cents __________________ Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.--Mark Twain "I have opinions of my own 'strong opinions' but I don't always agree with them."--George Bush

April 23, 2010, 01:52 AM	#32
JStetson Member Join Date: November 26, 2009 Posts: 33	We've had a lot of customers who have either fabricated their door jams with a small seal or have used moisture absorbers like the "Keep it Dry" Closet Dehumidifier. Hope this helps. __________________ PM for a deal if you're looking for a Gun Safe I'll hook TFL members up!

April 25, 2010, 02:30 AM	#33
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	I am in WI and currently have my guns stored in the basement... No other viable option. Winter its easy to keep them around 20% humidity but now since its warmer the basement is much more damp I have a heat rod and silica packs. Its around 40% percent. Thinking about Borestores as well. Anyone else find that to be acceptable humidity levels? __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

April 20, 2010, 10:36 AM	#26
REL1203 Member Join Date: September 21, 2006 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 61	Where can you thread a power cord through?

April 20, 2010, 11:26 AM	#28
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	Refrigerator compressors run on electricity, the pot is sealed against the atmosphere and run on pressure and a vacuum, the safe is too low tech?, I purchases a (small) bull eye (Louisiana light strapped to the head for alligators, coon hunting and I suppose going through the safe when the electricity is off), it has a lot of uses and cost less than $4.00 from Harbor Freight, it works great until the grand children find out where the switch is located. F. Guffey

April 20, 2010, 12:20 PM	#29
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	If you have a predrilled hole for a goldenrod dehumidifier, you can fit another cord through (or do what I did and drilled a hole from the inside out - took a few minutes but it wasn't hard)

April 25, 2010, 11:05 AM	#34
Brandy Junior member Join Date: March 31, 2010 Posts: 151	Intercept technology cases are on sale at The Sportsman Warehouse for shotguns and conventional scoped rifles (not ARs). They really do work...heck if they work in Key West they'll work anywhere!

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