Saiga-12 mags

SemperKnight · November 20, 2005, 02:20 AM

I have recently obtained a Saiga-12 and am very pleased with its performance. One of the best shot guns I have ever owned. The only prob I have with it is the cost of mags, and fact that I can't find one that holds more than eight shots.
I am hoping that maybe by some miracle someone here will know where to get a 10 round or even better a 20 round drum. If you do know, please do not be stingy with such wonderful info.

Spur0701 · November 24, 2005, 08:30 PM

Unless you buy 8 rounders from the UK or Russia via EBay you're pretty much stuck with 5 rounders and those are going to be expensive and hard to find since EAA stopped importing them. There's suspossed to be a new importer soon and they're supposed to starting re-importing Saiga's and the 5 rounders.....rumor has it that the ATF has threatened to declare the Saiga-12 a DD if the new importer (whoever that is, can't remember) brings in 8 rounders....but they may do it anyway since there's a company in VA that's planning on producing 10 round mags....see this site and get on their mailing list:

http://www.saigasolutions.com/

SemperKnight · December 5, 2005, 07:17 PM

Preciate the info and site. I was under the impression that our president in his infinite wisedom didn't resign the brady and the import ban was over. I might be wrong but I di know the cost of sporter weapons have gone down.
I will prob just get some one with machining equipment to fab me a drum. I think the hardest part would be the spring. Maybe I could get hold to a usas12 drum and modify. either way I "WILL" have a large cap mag for my weapon.

kozak6 · December 5, 2005, 07:27 PM

Some guys at http://forum.saiga-12.com/ are working on bigger, domestically produced magazines. None of them are in production yet, but they do have some pictures of the prototypes.

Here is one guys website:
http://www.saigasolutions.com/12.html

grey_pilgrim · December 5, 2005, 09:22 PM

I believe someone tried to make a 10 round (or more) drum. However, the ATF basically said that if there was a drum produced for the s-12, that they would classify it as a destructive device. So the company decided not to make em. I haven't been following the saiga solutions thing, so i really can't say.

As to new magazines coming in,
Russian American Armory is importing them. You can find a list of distributors on thier site.

expeditionx · December 5, 2005, 11:41 PM

I spoke to RAA the new importers a while back and was told they couldnt import the 8 round mags or the ATF would declare the Saiga shot guns Destructive Devices. As far as Americans are concerned its a bad thing.
Owning a Destructive Device is equivalent to owning a maching gun as far as legal restrictions go. The only problem is some states wont allow it period even if the ATF would approve your TAX STAMP and $200 tax to get your DD. If an 8 round mag is an issue to the ATF a drum will definitely cause a DD ruling soon enough.

By the way, unless the gun unless your Saiga has been converted from original configuration to less than 11 total ATF listed parts then using an 8 round mag is illegal in all states because of the legislation called GCA 922.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...gn+rifle+legal

November 20, 2005, 02:20 AM	#1
SemperKnight Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 129	Saiga-12 mags I have recently obtained a Saiga-12 and am very pleased with its performance. One of the best shot guns I have ever owned. The only prob I have with it is the cost of mags, and fact that I can't find one that holds more than eight shots. I am hoping that maybe by some miracle someone here will know where to get a 10 round or even better a 20 round drum. If you do know, please do not be stingy with such wonderful info.

December 5, 2005, 07:17 PM	#3
SemperKnight Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 129	thanks Preciate the info and site. I was under the impression that our president in his infinite wisedom didn't resign the brady and the import ban was over. I might be wrong but I di know the cost of sporter weapons have gone down. I will prob just get some one with machining equipment to fab me a drum. I think the hardest part would be the spring. Maybe I could get hold to a usas12 drum and modify. either way I "WILL" have a large cap mag for my weapon.

December 5, 2005, 09:22 PM	#5
grey_pilgrim Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2004 Location: mid-atlantic Posts: 352	I believe someone tried to make a 10 round (or more) drum. However, the ATF basically said that if there was a drum produced for the s-12, that they would classify it as a destructive device. So the company decided not to make em. I haven't been following the saiga solutions thing, so i really can't say. As to new magazines coming in, Russian American Armory is importing them. You can find a list of distributors on thier site. __________________ Cheers, Dave

November 24, 2005, 08:30 PM	#2
Spur0701 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2005 Posts: 208	Unless you buy 8 rounders from the UK or Russia via EBay you're pretty much stuck with 5 rounders and those are going to be expensive and hard to find since EAA stopped importing them. There's suspossed to be a new importer soon and they're supposed to starting re-importing Saiga's and the 5 rounders.....rumor has it that the ATF has threatened to declare the Saiga-12 a DD if the new importer (whoever that is, can't remember) brings in 8 rounders....but they may do it anyway since there's a company in VA that's planning on producing 10 round mags....see this site and get on their mailing list: http://www.saigasolutions.com/

December 5, 2005, 07:27 PM	#4
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	Some guys at http://forum.saiga-12.com/ are working on bigger, domestically produced magazines. None of them are in production yet, but they do have some pictures of the prototypes. Here is one guys website: http://www.saigasolutions.com/12.html

December 5, 2005, 11:41 PM	#6
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	I spoke to RAA the new importers a while back and was told they couldnt import the 8 round mags or the ATF would declare the Saiga shot guns Destructive Devices. As far as Americans are concerned its a bad thing. Owning a Destructive Device is equivalent to owning a maching gun as far as legal restrictions go. The only problem is some states wont allow it period even if the ATF would approve your TAX STAMP and $200 tax to get your DD. If an 8 round mag is an issue to the ATF a drum will definitely cause a DD ruling soon enough. By the way, unless the gun unless your Saiga has been converted from original configuration to less than 11 total ATF listed parts then using an 8 round mag is illegal in all states because of the legislation called GCA 922. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...gn+rifle+legal