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ghettoestl · February 5, 2006, 11:51 AM

yo retard FDR was a democrat

churchillburke · February 5, 2006, 12:14 PM

ghettoestl is probably from St. Clair County. The biggest enclave of parasitic Democrats in the country. If he's a police officer in that county and still a Demonrat then he clearly is not fully in possession of his intellectual faculties. Democrats are the party that hates guns and wants to take them away from us pure and simple. They are the party of a behemoth government, huge bureaucracies, limited personal freedom, limited personal choices (unless you choose to kill your unborn child), appeasement, and finally surrender. The Democrats loath the traditions of our country and wish to remake our country as a socialist Islamic hellhole.

ghettoestl · February 5, 2006, 12:22 PM

is everybody on this site a moron

expeditionx · February 5, 2006, 01:32 PM

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joab · February 5, 2006, 07:07 PM

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A word of advice would be dont go to an NRA convention wearing a "I voted for John Kerry/Hillary Clinton shirt" unless you want to see some really colorful comments made about your shirt statement.

More simplistic inductive leaps on your part, I hate Kerry and voted for Bush.
See what I mean.

A word of advice for you and the other nembie
Ease up on the personal attacks that have nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

He said the gun was ugly and impractical nothing more, don't turn it into a political and personal attack.

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is everybody on this site a moron

No, but some have not revued the rules of constructive conversation yet

expeditionx · February 5, 2006, 07:27 PM

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ghettoestl · February 5, 2006, 09:38 PM

ok now joab is the only reasonable person on here. and to u others ot there, did u really believe that there was not 1 single democrat in this country that owned a gun?? i mean seriously i came to this site for information. not to be attacked. i put that signature there because i thought people would get a kick out of it. but holy [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] yall need to calm down

ghostrider_tx · February 5, 2006, 10:15 PM

Howdy

Here's another 10 rounder. http://www.knoxx.com/index2.html

joneb · February 5, 2006, 10:26 PM

My friend has a Saiga 12 it's fun to shoot, screw in chokes would be nice, with that there could be a screw in to controll muzzle jump. The other thing that annoyed me was the safty, it's loud like the AK .

ghettoestl · February 5, 2006, 10:28 PM

i want the breachers grip from the knoxx site

expeditionx · February 5, 2006, 10:37 PM

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expeditionx · February 5, 2006, 10:39 PM

Ok glad we got that out of the way.
Now back to Saiga discussion.

ghettoestl · February 5, 2006, 10:55 PM

well just think it could have also been the other way around too. the anti gun people could have gone and dumped a lot of money on republicans and the pro gun people could have dumped all their money on democrats. its not about politics or beliefs its about money and they dont care about anything else

Weeg · February 6, 2006, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghettoestl

yo retard FDR was a democrat

Yo, that was 60 years ago...And the ENTIRE WORLD was at war.

OK, let me clarify...From LBJ (Should have been Clinton's initials) on, Dems have been nothing but bad for our country

joab · February 6, 2006, 07:47 AM

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Yo, that was 60 years ago...And the ENTIRE WORLD was at war.

OK, let me clarify...From LBJ (Should have been Clinton's initials) on, Dems have been nothing but bad for our country

And that Saiga would still be butt ugly if a Whig was in office.
Dems didn't make it ugly, Commies did

superdude · February 6, 2006, 11:33 AM

I think that the shot gun would be very fun to go out and just have a day shotting, that the apeal to me.

No more of this attacking, just talk about the shotgun and everyone will get along fine!

Widder · February 6, 2006, 03:41 PM

My God, what have I started?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and it doesn't faze me that someone thinks a gun is ugly and unwieldy looking. (Hey, maybe I want it BECAUSE it's ugly and intimidating). I have my personal preferences, and somebody else has theirs. Big deal. But to attack a fellow gun lover just because he belongs to a different political party is, frankly, pathetic.

expeditionx · February 6, 2006, 04:29 PM

Widder,

There is no longer any dispute. Please keep in mind that what one person states can be extremely offensive to another and can provoke a dispute. If I had a signature line that stated
Al-Qaeda will own your _ss, im sure alot of people would find that offensive. I hate Al quada enough that if I saw someones signature line like that I would be hard pressed not to remark.
But if you honestly think disputes like the previous one are too rough for your feathers, then never go to http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...splay.php?f=10 because your likely to see alot of debate.

By the way, if you cant have a Saiga in California its probably because someone thinks you shouldnt be trusted to have one.
That is something to think about,but not an issue to debate on a Saiga thread.

mpi · February 6, 2006, 04:49 PM

i got one, it's great, reliable with anything i put in it. i don't think it's ugly, it's an ak. these are a blast to shoot and are the best defensive shotguns in the world. this is coming from a guy with 2 mossies and 5 870's of different configurations. i got more shotguns than i know what to do with. the saigas are almost my favorites [an 1897 takedown riot gun is my all time fav]
mpi

joab · February 6, 2006, 05:00 PM

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But if you honestly think disputes like the previous one are too rough for your feathers, then never go to http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...splay.php?f=10 because your likely to see alot of debate.

The link you provide is to the Legal and Political section of the forum, this is the Shotgun section. See the difference ?

expeditionx · February 6, 2006, 05:03 PM

Yes I do. And thats why I will not debate any political issues anymore on this Saiga thread I started.

Im glad we can all get along.

Gazpacho · February 6, 2006, 06:40 PM

When I heard that the Saiga-12 was going to be imported again, I pre-ordered one. Then I sat down and really thought about it. I checked the boards and followed the Destructive Device debate. When I decided that I truly wanted it, I called up and ordered a second one. If the Gubmint decides to turn them Saigas into DDs, then one of mine is gonna loose about 6 inches off of the front end. Perfectly legal. DDs don't qualify as SBRs.

BTW, is there such a thing as a "practical" shotgun? If so, what are the criteria? This is a serious, non-hostile question.

expeditionx · February 6, 2006, 06:51 PM

DD's and short barrel rifles are both NFA items and require about the same to register them. You got me curious does the state you live in allow short barrel rifles and not DD's?

As long as no one starts manufacturing a drum for these shotguns the ATF is not likely to press the issue. There just isnt the same kind of anti-gun activism there was in the late 1980's and early 1990's.
The current congressional majority has been a deterrent in that aspect.

Mesa Tactical · February 7, 2006, 09:54 AM

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OK, let me clarify...From LBJ (Should have been Clinton's initials) on, Dems have been nothing but bad for our country

Liberal Democrat and the best friend of gun rights in the entire Congress: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dingell

Mesa Tactical · February 7, 2006, 09:56 AM

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And I don't think he's to ready to touch off a real shot, even a small gauge gas powered shotty shouldn't be rested against the bicep... Looks like a backyard "wanna-be" pic to me.

With the photographer standing where he is, I hope to hell the weapon isn't even loaded.

What has happened to this forum?

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expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	Widder, There is no longer any dispute. Please keep in mind that what one person states can be extremely offensive to another and can provoke a dispute. If I had a signature line that stated Al-Qaeda will own your _ss, im sure alot of people would find that offensive. I hate Al quada enough that if I saw someones signature line like that I would be hard pressed not to remark. But if you honestly think disputes like the previous one are too rough for your feathers, then never go to http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...splay.php?f=10 because your likely to see alot of debate. By the way, if you cant have a Saiga in California its probably because someone thinks you shouldnt be trusted to have one. That is something to think about,but not an issue to debate on a Saiga thread. Last edited by expeditionx; February 6, 2006 at 05:00 PM.

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February 5, 2006, 11:51 AM	#26
ghettoestl Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2005 Location: IL Posts: 166	yo retard FDR was a democrat

February 5, 2006, 12:14 PM	#27
churchillburke Member Join Date: September 19, 2005 Posts: 26	ghettoestl is probably from St. Clair County. The biggest enclave of parasitic Democrats in the country. If he's a police officer in that county and still a Demonrat then he clearly is not fully in possession of his intellectual faculties. Democrats are the party that hates guns and wants to take them away from us pure and simple. They are the party of a behemoth government, huge bureaucracies, limited personal freedom, limited personal choices (unless you choose to kill your unborn child), appeasement, and finally surrender. The Democrats loath the traditions of our country and wish to remake our country as a socialist Islamic hellhole.

February 5, 2006, 12:22 PM	#28
ghettoestl Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2005 Location: IL Posts: 166	is everybody on this site a moron

February 5, 2006, 09:38 PM	#32
ghettoestl Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2005 Location: IL Posts: 166	ok now joab is the only reasonable person on here. and to u others ot there, did u really believe that there was not 1 single democrat in this country that owned a gun?? i mean seriously i came to this site for information. not to be attacked. i put that signature there because i thought people would get a kick out of it. but holy [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color] yall need to calm down

February 5, 2006, 10:15 PM	#33
ghostrider_tx Junior Member Join Date: April 2, 2005 Posts: 4	Howdy Here's another 10 rounder. http://www.knoxx.com/index2.html

February 5, 2006, 10:26 PM	#34
joneb Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Location: Central , OR Posts: 1,888	My friend has a Saiga 12 it's fun to shoot, screw in chokes would be nice, with that there could be a screw in to controll muzzle jump. The other thing that annoyed me was the safty, it's loud like the AK .

February 5, 2006, 10:28 PM	#35
ghettoestl Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2005 Location: IL Posts: 166	i want the breachers grip from the knoxx site

February 5, 2006, 10:39 PM	#37
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	Ok glad we got that out of the way. Now back to Saiga discussion.

February 5, 2006, 10:55 PM	#38
ghettoestl Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2005 Location: IL Posts: 166	well just think it could have also been the other way around too. the anti gun people could have gone and dumped a lot of money on republicans and the pro gun people could have dumped all their money on democrats. its not about politics or beliefs its about money and they dont care about anything else

February 6, 2006, 11:33 AM	#41
superdude Member Join Date: October 28, 2005 Posts: 25	I think that the shot gun would be very fun to go out and just have a day shotting, that the apeal to me. No more of this attacking, just talk about the shotgun and everyone will get along fine!

February 6, 2006, 03:41 PM	#42
Widder Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2005 Posts: 117	My God, what have I started? Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and it doesn't faze me that someone thinks a gun is ugly and unwieldy looking. (Hey, maybe I want it BECAUSE it's ugly and intimidating). I have my personal preferences, and somebody else has theirs. Big deal. But to attack a fellow gun lover just because he belongs to a different political party is, frankly, pathetic.

February 6, 2006, 04:49 PM	#44
mpi Member Join Date: September 30, 2004 Posts: 49	i got one, it's great, reliable with anything i put in it. i don't think it's ugly, it's an ak. these are a blast to shoot and are the best defensive shotguns in the world. this is coming from a guy with 2 mossies and 5 870's of different configurations. i got more shotguns than i know what to do with. the saigas are almost my favorites [an 1897 takedown riot gun is my all time fav] mpi

February 6, 2006, 05:03 PM	#46
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	Yes I do. And thats why I will not debate any political issues anymore on this Saiga thread I started. Im glad we can all get along.

February 6, 2006, 06:40 PM	#47
Gazpacho Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2004 Posts: 592	When I heard that the Saiga-12 was going to be imported again, I pre-ordered one. Then I sat down and really thought about it. I checked the boards and followed the Destructive Device debate. When I decided that I truly wanted it, I called up and ordered a second one. If the Gubmint decides to turn them Saigas into DDs, then one of mine is gonna loose about 6 inches off of the front end. Perfectly legal. DDs don't qualify as SBRs. BTW, is there such a thing as a "practical" shotgun? If so, what are the criteria? This is a serious, non-hostile question.

February 6, 2006, 06:51 PM	#48
expeditionx Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2004 Posts: 330	DD's and short barrel rifles are both NFA items and require about the same to register them. You got me curious does the state you live in allow short barrel rifles and not DD's? As long as no one starts manufacturing a drum for these shotguns the ATF is not likely to press the issue. There just isnt the same kind of anti-gun activism there was in the late 1980's and early 1990's. The current congressional majority has been a deterrent in that aspect.