New used rifle for the Mrs...

std7mag · November 5, 2017, 08:57 PM

So while perusing my local shop I came acrossa Savage 110 FP. Chambered in 223.

Need to sell the Rossi R243 that she now has. And pick up dies, bullets, primers for 223.

Thinking the new AT-One stock from Boyds, along with an aftermarket trigger.
EGW 20MOA solid base.
Vortex rings.
Sightron STAC 4-20X50 scope.
Should be a shooter..

Dufus · November 5, 2017, 09:11 PM

It should be a shooter out of the box.

If you have a bore scope, take a look at the barrel.

The last few that I did needed to be lapped as the bore was very rough on each of them; at least it was to me.

If you are a young stud, then hand lapping can be done. I am an old fart so I lean towards the fire lapping regimen, although on occasion I still hand lap some.

The last one I fire lapped to save some time.

The NECO fire lapping kit works great. That is the one that Unclenick recommends and FWIW, I do too. Sure does make them clean easy afterwards.

std7mag · November 5, 2017, 10:22 PM

I'm not sure how much lapping would help. It is used. And who knows how many rounds have been put through it.

It appears to be in great shape, and for $250 i couldn't pass it up.

Scorch · November 6, 2017, 12:33 AM

20 MOA base? For what? Are you going to be shooting 1000+ yds with this rifle?

T. O'Heir · November 6, 2017, 01:12 PM

She know you're planning on selling her rifle? Trading a .243 for a .223 isn't a good idea or a chambering upgrade either.
"...Thinking the new..." The thing for you or her? Isn't your choice or up to you, if its for her.
"...4-20X50..." Way too much for a .223.

std7mag · November 7, 2017, 03:27 PM

T.O'heir,

I will still probably end up shooting it more than her, but not by that much.

She has commented that she would much prefer a bolt action vs the Rossi break open that she now has. And know that to afford that entails selling her Rossi.

243,223 she doesn't hunt so she doesn't care. As long as she can hear the bullet smack the steel.

We regularly shoot 500+ yards. Didn't think the 4-12x42 Vortex Crossfire II with BDC would match the 223 ballistics. That and we have both come to appreciate better glass.
Also nothing saying it has to be on 20 power all the time.

Art Eatman · November 7, 2017, 08:38 PM

If you're shooting in daylight, there is no need for a 50mm objective lens. Plus, it's common for a cheek weld to be easier with the lower mounts of a 40mm.

std7mag · November 7, 2017, 08:48 PM

For men i'd possibly agree with you.
Don't forget wemen are built different.

Stock with a fair bit of drop and a highish cheek riser fits her, unlike most factory stocks. With the high cheek comes higher rings.

cw308 · November 8, 2017, 09:36 AM

Trade in the Rossi , let her pisk the rifle she likes in a new bolt 223 .

Art Eatman · November 8, 2017, 10:07 AM

The ancient factual truism about the fit of a long gun: Mount it to the shoulder with the eyes closed, to a correct cheek weld. Upon opening the eyes, the view should be directly through the proper sight alignment. No motion of the head should be needed.

Proper fit enables best marksmanship.

std7mag · November 8, 2017, 04:08 PM

The purchase is a done deal. She has seen it before the final payment on it. Hence hers, not mine.

We may agree with a smaller scope, not sure. For now she'll be using the 4-12 Crossfire II that she had on the Rossi.

If she hadn't liked it i would have still bought it for me as a range gun. 1/2 the price to shoot as my 7mm-08.

We both know how to check fit for a stock and scope. Thank you though.

Deaf Smith · November 8, 2017, 05:46 PM

Handload and the price of ammo is way cheaper.

Deaf

DaleA · November 8, 2017, 07:10 PM

Quote:

For men I'd possibly agree with you.
Don't forget women are built different.

Ummmm.....I never will, and I've never thought that would be a problem.

Congratulations on finding someone who shares this sport.

Good luck. If appropriate come back and tell us how it works out.

Blindstitch · November 8, 2017, 09:21 PM

Doesn't seem like selling the Rossi would even be worth it unless you have a person already lined up.

Probably only worth $100.

std7mag · November 9, 2017, 06:14 AM

We don't buy factory ammo, except for 22LR and 22 WMR. Everything else i own i handload for.

Normally i'd agree with not selling the Rossi but we both prefer bolt guns, sooo.

10-96 · November 9, 2017, 06:22 AM

I'm with Scorch on this one. I think a 20moa base for a .223 is an exercise in the sillies. But, if you're onto a different approach or new idea- I'd like to hear about it. Nothing at all wrong with thinking outside the box y'know.

November 5, 2017, 08:57 PM	#1
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	New used rifle for the Mrs... So while perusing my local shop I came acrossa Savage 110 FP. Chambered in 223. Need to sell the Rossi R243 that she now has. And pick up dies, bullets, primers for 223. Thinking the new AT-One stock from Boyds, along with an aftermarket trigger. EGW 20MOA solid base. Vortex rings. Sightron STAC 4-20X50 scope. Should be a shooter..

November 6, 2017, 12:33 AM	#4
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	20 MOA base? For what? Are you going to be shooting 1000+ yds with this rifle? __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

November 6, 2017, 01:12 PM	#5
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	She know you're planning on selling her rifle? Trading a .243 for a .223 isn't a good idea or a chambering upgrade either. "...Thinking the new..." The thing for you or her? Isn't your choice or up to you, if its for her. "...4-20X50..." Way too much for a .223. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

November 8, 2017, 05:46 PM	#12
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	Handload and the price of ammo is way cheaper. Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides Last edited by Deaf Smith; November 8, 2017 at 09:57 PM.

November 8, 2017, 09:21 PM	#14
Blindstitch Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2013 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 2,692	Doesn't seem like selling the Rossi would even be worth it unless you have a person already lined up. Probably only worth $100. __________________ NRA Lifetime Member

November 5, 2017, 09:11 PM	#2
Dufus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1,965	It should be a shooter out of the box. If you have a bore scope, take a look at the barrel. The last few that I did needed to be lapped as the bore was very rough on each of them; at least it was to me. If you are a young stud, then hand lapping can be done. I am an old fart so I lean towards the fire lapping regimen, although on occasion I still hand lap some. The last one I fire lapped to save some time. The NECO fire lapping kit works great. That is the one that Unclenick recommends and FWIW, I do too. Sure does make them clean easy afterwards.

November 5, 2017, 10:22 PM	#3
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	I'm not sure how much lapping would help. It is used. And who knows how many rounds have been put through it. It appears to be in great shape, and for $250 i couldn't pass it up.

November 7, 2017, 03:27 PM	#6
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	T.O'heir, I will still probably end up shooting it more than her, but not by that much. She has commented that she would much prefer a bolt action vs the Rossi break open that she now has. And know that to afford that entails selling her Rossi. 243,223 she doesn't hunt so she doesn't care. As long as she can hear the bullet smack the steel. We regularly shoot 500+ yards. Didn't think the 4-12x42 Vortex Crossfire II with BDC would match the 223 ballistics. That and we have both come to appreciate better glass. Also nothing saying it has to be on 20 power all the time.

November 7, 2017, 08:38 PM	#7
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	If you're shooting in daylight, there is no need for a 50mm objective lens. Plus, it's common for a cheek weld to be easier with the lower mounts of a 40mm.

November 7, 2017, 08:48 PM	#8
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	For men i'd possibly agree with you. Don't forget wemen are built different. Stock with a fair bit of drop and a highish cheek riser fits her, unlike most factory stocks. With the high cheek comes higher rings.

November 8, 2017, 09:36 AM	#9
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	Trade in the Rossi , let her pisk the rifle she likes in a new bolt 223 .

November 8, 2017, 10:07 AM	#10
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	The ancient factual truism about the fit of a long gun: Mount it to the shoulder with the eyes closed, to a correct cheek weld. Upon opening the eyes, the view should be directly through the proper sight alignment. No motion of the head should be needed. Proper fit enables best marksmanship.

November 8, 2017, 04:08 PM	#11
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	The purchase is a done deal. She has seen it before the final payment on it. Hence hers, not mine. We may agree with a smaller scope, not sure. For now she'll be using the 4-12 Crossfire II that she had on the Rossi. If she hadn't liked it i would have still bought it for me as a range gun. 1/2 the price to shoot as my 7mm-08. We both know how to check fit for a stock and scope. Thank you though.

November 9, 2017, 06:14 AM	#15
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	We don't buy factory ammo, except for 22LR and 22 WMR. Everything else i own i handload for. Normally i'd agree with not selling the Rossi but we both prefer bolt guns, sooo.

November 9, 2017, 06:22 AM	#16
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,159	I'm with Scorch on this one. I think a 20moa base for a .223 is an exercise in the sillies. But, if you're onto a different approach or new idea- I'd like to hear about it. Nothing at all wrong with thinking outside the box y'know. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.