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Old January 14, 2022, 02:40 AM   #1
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Scope mount , what's best for the price ?

Looking to get a good set of 34mm rings or single piece mount . I think I have a 20 moa base on my rifle , regardless I'm going to want that cant in there somewhere either on the base or the one piece scope mount .

I'm rebarreling my Savage Model 10 with new scope and stock , likely new trigger as well . Already have the barrel on order and bought a Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25 x 56 FFP scope . Now I need to mount it , well I want the stuff I'll need to mount it when the time comes . I'd like to have everything ready to go by June when the barrel should arrive .

Budget range for the rings/mount , I'd like to keep it to $150 or less but $200 is not out of the question . Haha that's funny , the scope on the rifle now didn't cost as much as my budget is for just the rings on the new rig

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Old January 14, 2022, 07:49 AM   #2
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EGW!
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I use their 20 MOA one piece rails.
Good quality! Not badly priced!

They are kinda tall. But it allows me to use low rings with up through a 50mm objective lense.

Their Keystone line of rings are seriously overbuilt!
If your not worried about keeping weight down, i highly reccomend them!

Plus, if you buy base & rings at the same time, EGW takes 10% off.
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Old January 14, 2022, 01:36 PM   #3
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These are some of what I've been looking at

One piece
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FRSK87Q...v_ov_lig_dp_it


Rings
https://www.amazon.com/Zeiss-Precisi...%2C138&sr=1-18

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RRSJH6Q...v_ov_lig_dp_it
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Old January 14, 2022, 01:41 PM   #4
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Vortex precision matched is what I would do. Talley one piece if your trying to save weight but judging by the scope your using im guessing this isnt a lightweight build.
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Old January 14, 2022, 01:57 PM   #5
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Talley one piece if your trying to save weight but judging by the scope your using im guessing this isnt a lightweight build.
Interesting you say that . Not even sure this is a thing but I want it as light as possible with out really considering weight haha . I went with a light varmint contour for the barrel and trying to keep the weight down on the stock but not trying to make the build light as a whole . More like trying to keep it from being very heavy .

I really like the Zeiss rings because of the level . I use some sort of anti can level on all rifles I intend to shoot more then 300yds . If the level is built into the rings then I don't need to spend the extra $50 to $75 on a separate anti cant level . When taken as a whole that mean the $200 rings are no more then the $150 rings + anti cant level and maybe even a bit less .
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Old January 14, 2022, 08:37 PM   #6
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Talley rings are around $60. Ill admit im biased twords vortex mostly because I get a healthy discount but their stuff has never failed me. Most of their stuff is rather heavy though. The zeiss rings look really nice and like you anything i intend to shoot past 400yds has a level on it.
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Old January 15, 2022, 05:55 AM   #7
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The best rings that I've ever used are the American Rifle Co. M10 rings. I've got 6 sets of them on all of my 34mm tube and bigger scopes.
ARC changed the design for 2022, and renamed them M-Brace rings.

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Old January 15, 2022, 10:04 AM   #8
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Std_mag beat me to it!!! Another vote for EGW!
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Old January 15, 2022, 06:37 PM   #9
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I've always gravitated towards badger ordnance or Leupold Mk 4 rings.
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Old January 15, 2022, 06:51 PM   #10
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Anybody use DNZ?
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Old January 27, 2022, 09:41 PM   #11
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https://www.dnzproducts.com/

Check these out ! One piece and solid on my savage10
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Old January 27, 2022, 09:58 PM   #12
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ARCs are rock heavy rings, very good. I sold mine.

I have become a huge fan of the Hawkins Precision Hybrids. They have cant built in, no need for a rail, rock solid, but light and durable. They eliminate an additional interfaces.
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Old January 28, 2022, 12:44 AM   #13
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The best rings that I've ever used are the American Rifle Co.
YES!
Expensive and heavy--but they are the best of the best in my experience (short of ultra-custom exotic).
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Old January 29, 2022, 12:06 PM   #14
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The Vortex Precision rings are nice. Those rings are manufactured for Vortex by Seekings. But I also like LaRue’s LT-104 quick release mount and their Can Do mount. I have more of those than any other brand. Nice mounts if you like to move scopes around to different rifles.

For canting, forget the bubble levels. Get the Sendit electronic anti-can’t device. $200 but worth the expense since it’s faster much easier to see than a bubble level. You won’t have move your head off the stock with Sendit device.

https://long-range-arms.myshopify.co...ts/send-it-xsl

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Old January 29, 2022, 07:02 PM   #15
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For 34mm you don't have as many options. Leupold, EGW or Vortex would be my bet.
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Old January 31, 2022, 08:41 AM   #16
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Get the Sendit electronic anti-can’t device.
I use their pro-can.

Seriously, I have one and they are really nice.
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Old January 31, 2022, 05:32 PM   #17
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I've got DNZ mounts on all of my Savages, like 'em, no problems in the 3-4 yrs I've used 'em.
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Old February 1, 2022, 08:23 AM   #18
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Fwiw I’m still watching this thread and considering your guys options . Not sure I will go with the electric level though . I have bubble levels on several rifles that are placed to be seen using the opposite eye thats looking through the scope . Just a quick glance and I’m gtg .
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Old February 1, 2022, 09:52 AM   #19
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Bubble levels are good to learn with. After a while, you don't need them anymore.
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Old February 1, 2022, 12:24 PM   #20
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Bubble levels are good to learn with. After a while, you don't need them anymore.
My natural hold has a massive cant . Never ever knew that until I started shooting longer ranges ( 300yds+) . I often shoot in the field at unknown distances and have no vertical or horizontal reference points down range to be sure I'm not canted . If I don't I have something to line my self up on I almost certainly will cant my rifle .

I've tried correcting the issue and I simply can't feel or see the cant . Countless times I've lined my self up and thought OK this time I have to be level only to be off .

Do you all have any tricks that you use to level the rifle with no real reference points down range ?

FWIW , I use BDC reticles on my long range rifles and actually use the reticle so the rifle needs to be level to get the proper dope .
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Old February 3, 2022, 11:25 PM   #21
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When gun fires, muzzle rises up with recoil. It needs to rise up vertically (along with gravity). That's what counts. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with which part of the rifle being level.

I haven't had a lot chance to shoot long range, but that's what I do or try to do. I always use the vertical part of the reticle to align with vertical "features" appeared in the scope. A wall, a fence, a flag pole, or even a standing person. I test fire with different elevation settings. There should be little or no change in windage in the groups, otherwise I will rotate the scope tube to adjust. For instance, if the center of groups shifts to the right with increased elevation, I will rotate the tube clockwise a little and try again. When done, the shouldered rifle may look or feel canted, but I just ignore it. My perception is wrong.

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Old February 4, 2022, 12:09 AM   #22
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When using a Bullet drop compensation (BDC) reticle and adjusting the rifle 20moa up using the reticle . It is critical the rifle is perfectly squared up to the scope and reticle . If the rifle is canted to the right . When you raise the rifle up using the reticle you are actually raising the rifle up and to the right . Even if your aim , hold and dope is perfect you will miss to the right and this rifle will not be for shooting groups . It will be for first round hits or quick follow ups at unknown distances .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJWbR8YTOlA

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