April 23, 2017, 07:52 PM | #1 |
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Remington 31
Just picked up an older Remington 31 pump action 12 guages. Took it for a testing today.
Fully functional. Except getting a shell to come out for feeding requires you to slam it back. Pull back nice and slow, no load. Shotguns I've fired, my win 1200, they loaded on a slow pull. Not hating this if it's normal. Can clear chamber with it loaded. Can drop 4 in the bottom and fifth in breech to use a full 5 pack. So, is the slam it back action normal for a rem 31? Or do I need to see a gunsmith? Also, it only hold four 2 3/4s. This is a home defense gun. Feeder part spring pushes is about 1.5" long. Can it be shortened for a 5 pack load with empty chamber? Only need 3/4" of an inch, just enough for the brass. |
April 24, 2017, 12:42 AM | #2 |
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No, you shouldn't need to "slam" it open to get a round released from the magazine.
Initial thought would be dirty/rusty gun. Completely disassemble, thoroughly clean and oil, reassemble and test it. If that doesn't work, weak magazine spring and/or damaged/worn shell stop and/or damaged/worn cartridge carrier would be my next things to check. On the 31, the left side shell stop(looking top down, so when you turn it over it will be on the right) is primary, moves in and out and is acuated by the cartridge carrier. The right side shell stop is secondary, moves up and down and is actuated by the bolt slide. Most likely, if a good cleaning doesn't help, it's one or a combination of the above parts causing the problem, most likely cartridge carrier and/or primary cartridge stop. Luckily, they aren't very expensive and are available from gunpartscorp.com(Numrich). Regarding the magazine capacity and follower, you might be able to shorten one and squeeze in an extra round, but I wouldn't recommend it, but it's your gun so... I'd say buy one from Numrich($6.25), cut and try that one, keep the original in case things don't work out. Good luck, the 31 is a GREAT gun, one of the most underrated pump guns there is. Last edited by Kilrain; April 24, 2017 at 12:55 AM. |
April 24, 2017, 09:58 PM | #3 |
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It is an older gun, not fresh out of a box. Handling does get your hands dirty. So I'll start with a good cleaning.
Do like how it handles all in all. With the 18.5" cut down barrel, it's got a real nice balance. I definitely prefer a pump to semi auto. Seen to many semis fail to function after just a few rounds. Need to part shop in general for it. A nice new stock with PG. And a spare follower... That low capacity sucks for a home defense gun. My 1200 can extend the mag tube easily... Lucky me, I got a gunsmith literally with stones throw. Let him cut down the follower. Way it's shaped, I expect to need to cut out middle and rejoin the ends. |
April 24, 2017, 10:50 PM | #4 |
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Saw a trapshooter having a lot of failures to load the second shell at doubles with a Model 31. I was watching because even in the 1980s, shooting a pump at doubles was a rare sight.
I always figured he was "short-shucking" it, but maybe it was mechanical. |
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April 25, 2017, 03:11 AM | #6 |
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If mine looked as clean, I wouldn't want to restock it...
By pg that's exactly what I meant. Sucks I can't just order one, but good gunsmith. 4+1 will certainly stop any 1 or 2 ppl. But I've heard of 7 "person" home invasions before. And I dislike having a chambered round. Especially without a hammer to release in not a .22. Pulled it all apart. Cleaned oiled. More than a little dust. But no joy. Seems to be carrier is failing to full stroke down, not pushing stop far enough out to let it pop free of tube. Slow pump, pull carrier down manually, it feeds. Didn't see any physical wear on parts. Good gunsmith is who I bought it from. I'll discuss it tomorrow when dropping off win 1200 for cerrakote Shell holder, know anybody selling such a nice one for a left shoulder shooter? I see generic ones and righties everywhere. Btw, serial 124xxx, can you date it? |
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April 25, 2017, 09:35 PM | #8 |
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Belt fed and crewed. Lmao.
Wish I could get and afford something like that. Got the mag tube extension for my win 1200, now holds 10. But 28" barrel, not a great home gun. The 1911 loaded with a mix of civil defense and r.i.p. not a bad choice. And snail drums legal here, but those seem unreliable. And while it's only .22, the pps has 50 round drums and a 99% reliability with rem golden bullets. But round nose .22, not much stopping power there. Whether it's zombies or the long overdue revolution, I'm getting ready. |
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