And the handgun preferred by a top terrorist is...

TXAZ · January 11, 2020, 12:32 PM

Fox News has released US SF pictures from the Solemani strike.

If you go to the following vidoe link:
linkWhat pistol does a terrorist prefer? Go to 1:15 in this video

In the linked video there's a picture of the AK and handgun carried by General Soleimani who was the subject of a Reaper encounter.

The AK is seen in the video at 1:14
The Sig? is seen in the video at 1:15

It's not clear what caliber the gun is but you can make out the serial number if you have a good display and there may be a Sig serial number decoder somewhere on the web...

What do you think, is it a Sig and if so what model and caliber?

Followup edit: There's a strong likelihood this is an unauthorized Iranian knockoff, read below.

Bartholomew Roberts · January 11, 2020, 02:02 PM

Looks like a third-world clone of a P226 DAO.

Sharkbite · January 11, 2020, 02:13 PM

Dawoo???

mr bolo · January 11, 2020, 03:03 PM

looks like a SIG SAUER P226 without a rail

Armybrat · January 11, 2020, 03:50 PM

Terrorist general reaped what he sowed.
Interesting that the Sig survived intact.

Sharkbite · January 11, 2020, 04:40 PM

Sig = Hellfire proof. Lol

Thats a commercial right there

**JohnKSa** · January 11, 2020, 05:00 PM

A number of sources suggest that the Iranian military issues an unlicensed clone/copy of the P226.

So probably not exclusively about personal preference although clearly he wouldn't have to carry the issue sidearm if he wanted to carry something else.

10-96 · January 11, 2020, 05:27 PM

Yeah, I'm going to go with "an unlicensed clone"- the trigger guard is longer and it may have an internal extractor, but it's hard to tell though.

Bartholomew Roberts · January 11, 2020, 05:44 PM

It’s likely an unlicensed clone just on the basis that Iran has been under sanctions forever and small arms would be at the top of the prohibited pyramid.

HighDesert · January 11, 2020, 05:57 PM

I’m going with the real thing, smuggled in like most everything else.

TXAZ · January 11, 2020, 06:35 PM

Edit: See link below this is likely an indigenous knock off of a Sig P226.

Bartholomew Roberts · January 11, 2020, 07:47 PM

No legible SIG markings or stamps.
Extended trigger guard.
Trigger further forward than normal 226.
No rail.
SIG serial number scheme is A###-###-AA-year - that’s not the serial number scheme on that pistol

TXAZ · January 11, 2020, 08:14 PM

It looks like the 'unlicensed Iranian P226 Sig Sauer" copy is the winner. A friend pointed to this link, where the first entry, about 1 scrolled page down shows the PC-9 ZOAF, an unlicensed Iranian P226 knockoff.

Here's the link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipm...e_Iranian_Army

veprdude · January 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

Surprised it's not gold plated or something.

JERRYS. · January 13, 2020, 10:53 PM

if that gun still works Sig Sauer ought to buy it back for a million dollars because the Ad revenue from this would bring in far far more.

EIGHTYDUECE · January 13, 2020, 11:20 PM

It looks like a Pre-rail version of the P226. The P226 without the rail had the longer trigger guard like the one in the picture. Early versions of the P226 also were stamped slides that did not have the external extractor like the newer versions. To me, it looks like an '80s model Sig Sauer P226 German made.

zoo · January 15, 2020, 03:02 PM

That AK is going to need to go back to the shop though.

Skans · January 17, 2020, 11:49 AM

If Soleimani actually knew how to use that Sig, I'm sure he could have delayed his permanent residence with the Devil a few more years. It's a good thing our military is far better trained than Iran's.

Sgt127 · January 21, 2020, 06:55 PM

Not sure how a Sig P226 clone would save you from a Hellfire Missile.

TXAZ · January 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt127

Not sure how a Sig P226 clone would save you from a Hellfire Missile.

Maybe an “Iranian standoff”? aka P226 vs AGM-114......
I’m betting on the self-propelled laser guided weapon.

Sodbuster · January 22, 2020, 08:37 AM

If a true SIG, that serial number matches with a 2008 date of manufacture according to these guys:

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/1130042554

Features such as a rail (or lack of) are not mentioned. I don't know one way or the other if it's a clone or real. Prior guess of 1980s vintage may, in fact, be correct. Just throwing out an observation.

TBM900 · January 22, 2020, 11:22 AM

It is an Iranian made PC-09 ZOAF

TBM900 · January 22, 2020, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoo

That AK is going to need to go back to the shop though.

Nope... Just rinse it off in a ditch and it will be fine

zoo · January 22, 2020, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Nope... Just rinse it off in a ditch and it will be fine

Pffft, wash YOU off in a ditch! (Kidding).

At the least the headspace is going to be out of whack!

January 11, 2020, 12:32 PM	#1
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	And the handgun preferred by a top terrorist is... Fox News has released US SF pictures from the Solemani strike. If you go to the following vidoe link: linkWhat pistol does a terrorist prefer? Go to 1:15 in this video In the linked video there's a picture of the AK and handgun carried by General Soleimani who was the subject of a Reaper encounter. The AK is seen in the video at 1:14 The Sig? is seen in the video at 1:15 It's not clear what caliber the gun is but you can make out the serial number if you have a good display and there may be a Sig serial number decoder somewhere on the web... What do you think, is it a Sig and if so what model and caliber? Followup edit: There's a strong likelihood this is an unauthorized Iranian knockoff, read below. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes Last edited by TXAZ; January 11, 2020 at 08:15 PM.

January 11, 2020, 03:03 PM	#4
mr bolo Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2012 Posts: 432	looks like a SIG SAUER P226 without a rail Last edited by mr bolo; January 11, 2020 at 03:25 PM.

January 11, 2020, 05:00 PM	#7
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,985	A number of sources suggest that the Iranian military issues an unlicensed clone/copy of the P226. So probably not exclusively about personal preference although clearly he wouldn't have to carry the issue sidearm if he wanted to carry something else. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

January 11, 2020, 05:27 PM	#8
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,159	Yeah, I'm going to go with "an unlicensed clone"- the trigger guard is longer and it may have an internal extractor, but it's hard to tell though. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

January 11, 2020, 06:35 PM	#11
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Edit: See link below this is likely an indigenous knock off of a Sig P226. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes Last edited by TXAZ; January 11, 2020 at 08:16 PM.

January 11, 2020, 02:02 PM	#2
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	Looks like a third-world clone of a P226 DAO.

January 11, 2020, 02:13 PM	#3
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,679	Dawoo???

January 11, 2020, 03:50 PM	#5
Armybrat Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2009 Location: Round Rock, Texas Posts: 976	Terrorist general reaped what he sowed. Interesting that the Sig survived intact.

January 11, 2020, 04:40 PM	#6
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,679	Sig = Hellfire proof. Lol Thats a commercial right there

January 11, 2020, 05:44 PM	#9
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	It’s likely an unlicensed clone just on the basis that Iran has been under sanctions forever and small arms would be at the top of the prohibited pyramid.

January 11, 2020, 05:57 PM	#10
HighDesert Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2014 Posts: 128	I’m going with the real thing, smuggled in like most everything else.

January 11, 2020, 07:47 PM	#12
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	No legible SIG markings or stamps. Extended trigger guard. Trigger further forward than normal 226. No rail. SIG serial number scheme is A###-###-AA-year - that’s not the serial number scheme on that pistol

January 11, 2020, 08:14 PM	#13
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	It looks like the 'unlicensed Iranian P226 Sig Sauer" copy is the winner. A friend pointed to this link, where the first entry, about 1 scrolled page down shows the PC-9 ZOAF, an unlicensed Iranian P226 knockoff. Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipm...e_Iranian_Army __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

January 13, 2020, 10:47 PM	#14
veprdude Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 430	Surprised it's not gold plated or something.

January 13, 2020, 10:53 PM	#15
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,968	if that gun still works Sig Sauer ought to buy it back for a million dollars because the Ad revenue from this would bring in far far more.

January 13, 2020, 11:20 PM	#16
EIGHTYDUECE Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2001 Posts: 578	It looks like a Pre-rail version of the P226. The P226 without the rail had the longer trigger guard like the one in the picture. Early versions of the P226 also were stamped slides that did not have the external extractor like the newer versions. To me, it looks like an '80s model Sig Sauer P226 German made. __________________ "KNEES IN THE BREEZE" "Shop Smart, Shop S-Mart"- ASH

January 15, 2020, 03:02 PM	#17
zoo member Join Date: October 2, 2019 Posts: 414	That AK is going to need to go back to the shop though.

January 17, 2020, 11:49 AM	#18
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	If Soleimani actually knew how to use that Sig, I'm sure he could have delayed his permanent residence with the Devil a few more years. It's a good thing our military is far better trained than Iran's.

January 21, 2020, 06:55 PM	#19
Sgt127 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Posts: 1,053	Not sure how a Sig P226 clone would save you from a Hellfire Missile.

January 22, 2020, 08:37 AM	#21
Sodbuster Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 1999 Location: Wyo-Tana Posts: 1,298	If a true SIG, that serial number matches with a 2008 date of manufacture according to these guys: http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/1130042554 Features such as a rail (or lack of) are not mentioned. I don't know one way or the other if it's a clone or real. Prior guess of 1980s vintage may, in fact, be correct. Just throwing out an observation. __________________ Remember, many times what we view as a curse in the present turns out to be a blessing in the future. Don't worry about it a lot. Things have a way of working out. Trust me on this one. - - Uncle Bill Martino Last edited by Sodbuster; January 22, 2020 at 08:44 AM.

January 22, 2020, 11:22 AM	#22
TBM900 Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2015 Posts: 777	It is an Iranian made PC-09 ZOAF __________________ Playboy billionaire Retired Colonial Marine 1st to walk on the moon without a spacesuit