Shoulder Injury - Page 2

kilotanker22 · March 13, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ms6852

Kilotanker you seem to describe what we called a "supraspinatous" tear based on your symptoms. I performed thousands of MRI's on patients with those particular tears. Be patient for now ice it down, DO NOT use heat, prayers sent your way to make sure every turns out ok.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

T. O'Heir · March 13, 2019, 12:43 PM

"...could take months or even years..." Depends on what's damaged. Have a torn tendon("supraspinatous" that one as I recall) that will never be 'right'. My arm would just stop working for a few minutes. Doc(specialist) told me they don't do surgery any more. It took a full year for my arm to be almost normal. Last ultra sound I had showed the tendon was thickening. Said to my MD, 'That's healing." "Yep." says he.
No rifle calibre is light enough. Even a .243 bolt action will thump you with its short sharp recoil(A 95 grainer at 3100 FPS out of a 7.25 lb rifle has 11.0 ft-lbs of recoil.). Although it's more about the weight of the rifle.

603Country · March 13, 2019, 03:48 PM

I had a completely torn supraspinatus (if spelled correctly). Detached from the bone. I tried just about everything, but finally had the surgery. i’m 100% now. Recovery and rehab on the shoulder was awful beyond words.

If you just want the pain gone, acupuncture completely eased the pain. Unfortunately, any strenuous use of the shoulder brought back the pain.

std7mag · March 13, 2019, 06:18 PM

Kilo,

I got it!!!!

Ruger 77 in 257 Roberts!!

My very recoil shy daughter even likes shooting mine!

tango1niner · March 13, 2019, 06:28 PM

Partial tear of rotator cuffs here. No surgery. Doctor told me putting arms (elbows in particular) behind ones back will worsen this condition.

kilotanker22 · March 13, 2019, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tango1niner

Partial tear of rotator cuffs here. No surgery. Doctor told me putting arms (elbows in particular) behind ones back will worsen this condition.

LOL, she also told me no more pushups

Doyle · March 13, 2019, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Partial tear of rotator cuffs here. No surgery. Doctor told me putting arms (elbows in particular) behind ones back will worsen this condition.

Actually, this has impacted my shooting while recoil has not. It has prevented me from carrying a pistol at the small-of-the-back position.

std7mag · March 14, 2019, 03:42 AM

What's a pushup???

Someone pass me the donuts!!

Mobuck · March 14, 2019, 07:03 AM

I've had a serious rotator cuff injury for years but just can't make the time to get it repaired. For my 2017 elk hunt, I chose my trusted 7mm Rem mag. When I made the killing shot from a somewhat awkward position, the recoil caught me on the point of the shoulder and made tears come to my eyes.
At that point, I realized I was done with the hard kickers. For the 2018 hunt, I used a 25/06 that doesn't hurt me and did just as well (within the parameters of my specific hunting environment) as the 7mm RM. I'm a big fan of the 25/06 and given an equal opportunity, it will perform adequately even on elk. It's a significant step above the 6.5C- not in bullet weight but in longer range performance under hunting conditions.

osbornk · March 14, 2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Doyle

I also have a shoulder injury. I'm pretty sure that I'll eventually have to have rotator cuff surgery to repair it. When that happens, I'm not sure what I'll do about my shooting. One possibility I have is to switch to left-handed shooting. I'm already cross-eye dominant so switching to the left eye wouldn't be a problem for the eyes.

I think I could adapt to shooting rifles left handed pretty easily. Shotguns though, would be a significant problem.

If you have successful rotator cuff surgery like I did, your shoulder will be like it was never injured and you can return to shooting with no problems. You just have to give it time to heal properly and do the rehab exactly as prescribed. It was also the most painful of my several surgeries.

stagpanther · March 14, 2019, 10:29 AM

Try a 300 black out set up as a pistol--contrary to what people may tell you they can be shot very well with some practice without any kind of body/shoulder weld. Otherwise you're just playing around with degrees of impact force.

Wag · March 14, 2019, 10:48 AM

If the surgery will help, get it done.

The people I know who had rotator cuff injuries due to football or wrestling all said that it took a VERY long time to heal. Then, one day, I bucked off a horse and tore mine on the left side. Fortunately, I'm right-handed but that left side took over two years to heal up completely.

Give it time and don't push it beyond Dr.'s orders.

And good luck!

--Wag--

kilotanker22 · March 14, 2019, 11:13 AM

Well I met with the Doc to go over the results of the imaging.

There is not a tear. I have some bruising and it was stressed. She said I should be in good shape in a few weeks.

Rimfire5 · March 14, 2019, 04:20 PM

kilotanker,
That is the best news you could have had, other than not being injured in the first place.

Glad you got the 'get out of rotator cuff 'Jail' free card.

std7mag · March 14, 2019, 05:15 PM

Dang! That means no 300 Win Mag on the cheap!!
Errr, i mean that's good news!!!

Besides, i'm still eating PB&J for a couple of months yet.

Although i did find a Savage 11 in 300 WSM, that's calling my name. IF it's still there when i can afford to buy it, i'll be selling the barrel. Thinking perfect candidate for a Proof Research carbon wrapped barrel in 7mm WSM.

Oh, Grice's has Weatherby Vangard with wood stock on super special. Guy i work with driving up Saturday to get one in 300 Weatherby Magnum.

kilotanker22 · March 14, 2019, 08:32 PM

Yeah, and for now I will shoot the 300 win mag from the lead sled. I picked up 25 pounds of shot today and I have another 10 pounds already. Should make for a more comfortable load workup for those 200 grain ELDx bullets I bought this afternoon.

sako2 · March 14, 2019, 09:48 PM

Glad to hear it's not a rotator cuff.

GeauxTide · March 14, 2019, 10:53 PM

I've had a couple of back/neck surgeries. I went to the 260 Rem because Savage had a LH 16. I put a Boyd's Stock with Limbsaver Pad and it is mahvelous with 120-129s. I'm also having a 243 Varmint re-barreled to sporter barrel. I also LOVE my 6.5 Grendel AR. A 123SST at 2400 in .3"!!!!!

ms6852 · March 15, 2019, 12:39 AM

That is pretty darn great news. Just ice it down every day for a few months. Don't push it, be patient and heal well, be inpatient and hurt longer.

ifithitu · March 15, 2019, 11:34 AM

Doctor's knows better,maybe you should keep the rifle and do what the Doctor said.lol

Jsnake711 · March 17, 2019, 10:12 PM

I tore my rotator cuff years ago and it was very painful. I had surgery and completely healed and I have no problems with anything. Maybe surgery should be considered and keep all of your guns

I second!! Mine took 6 months to heal up, but I wouldn't sell it.

kilotanker22 · March 17, 2019, 10:44 PM

Just stressed or sprained. No tear

Colorado Redneck · March 17, 2019, 11:12 PM

RECOIL BRAKE

I have become increasingly intolerant of recoil as I'm getting up in years. I have Witt Machine clamp on brakes on a 243 and 6.5 Creedmoor. Made into pussycats. Highly recommend you try one on whatever rifle you choose. $100 gets it to you. Easy to mount.

March 13, 2019, 12:43 PM	#27
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...could take months or even years..." Depends on what's damaged. Have a torn tendon("supraspinatous" that one as I recall) that will never be 'right'. My arm would just stop working for a few minutes. Doc(specialist) told me they don't do surgery any more. It took a full year for my arm to be almost normal. Last ultra sound I had showed the tendon was thickening. Said to my MD, 'That's healing." "Yep." says he. No rifle calibre is light enough. Even a .243 bolt action will thump you with its short sharp recoil(A 95 grainer at 3100 FPS out of a 7.25 lb rifle has 11.0 ft-lbs of recoil.). Although it's more about the weight of the rifle. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

March 13, 2019, 06:18 PM	#29
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Kilo, I got it!!!! Ruger 77 in 257 Roberts!! My very recoil shy daughter even likes shooting mine! __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

March 14, 2019, 03:42 AM	#33
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	What's a pushup??? Someone pass me the donuts!! __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

March 14, 2019, 10:29 AM	#36
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,768	Try a 300 black out set up as a pistol--contrary to what people may tell you they can be shot very well with some practice without any kind of body/shoulder weld. Otherwise you're just playing around with degrees of impact force. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

March 14, 2019, 10:48 AM	#37
Wag Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 988	If the surgery will help, get it done. The people I know who had rotator cuff injuries due to football or wrestling all said that it took a VERY long time to heal. Then, one day, I bucked off a horse and tore mine on the left side. Fortunately, I'm right-handed but that left side took over two years to heal up completely. Give it time and don't push it beyond Dr.'s orders. And good luck! --Wag-- __________________ "Great genius will always encounter fierce opposition from mediocre minds." --Albert Einstein. Last edited by Wag; March 15, 2019 at 10:14 AM. Reason: Killing typo fairies

March 13, 2019, 03:48 PM	#28
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	I had a completely torn supraspinatus (if spelled correctly). Detached from the bone. I tried just about everything, but finally had the surgery. i’m 100% now. Recovery and rehab on the shoulder was awful beyond words. If you just want the pain gone, acupuncture completely eased the pain. Unfortunately, any strenuous use of the shoulder brought back the pain.

March 13, 2019, 06:28 PM	#30
tango1niner Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: NY Posts: 317	Partial tear of rotator cuffs here. No surgery. Doctor told me putting arms (elbows in particular) behind ones back will worsen this condition.

March 14, 2019, 07:03 AM	#34
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	I've had a serious rotator cuff injury for years but just can't make the time to get it repaired. For my 2017 elk hunt, I chose my trusted 7mm Rem mag. When I made the killing shot from a somewhat awkward position, the recoil caught me on the point of the shoulder and made tears come to my eyes. At that point, I realized I was done with the hard kickers. For the 2018 hunt, I used a 25/06 that doesn't hurt me and did just as well (within the parameters of my specific hunting environment) as the 7mm RM. I'm a big fan of the 25/06 and given an equal opportunity, it will perform adequately even on elk. It's a significant step above the 6.5C- not in bullet weight but in longer range performance under hunting conditions.

March 14, 2019, 11:13 AM	#38
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	Well I met with the Doc to go over the results of the imaging. There is not a tear. I have some bruising and it was stressed. She said I should be in good shape in a few weeks. __________________ “We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace. Be peaceful, therefore, in warring, so that you may vanquish those whom you war against, and bring them to the prosperity of peace. – St. Augustine

March 14, 2019, 04:20 PM	#39
Rimfire5 Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 922	kilotanker, That is the best news you could have had, other than not being injured in the first place. Glad you got the 'get out of rotator cuff 'Jail' free card.

March 14, 2019, 05:15 PM	#40
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Dang! That means no 300 Win Mag on the cheap!! Errr, i mean that's good news!!! Besides, i'm still eating PB&J for a couple of months yet. Although i did find a Savage 11 in 300 WSM, that's calling my name. IF it's still there when i can afford to buy it, i'll be selling the barrel. Thinking perfect candidate for a Proof Research carbon wrapped barrel in 7mm WSM. Oh, Grice's has Weatherby Vangard with wood stock on super special. Guy i work with driving up Saturday to get one in 300 Weatherby Magnum. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope... Last edited by std7mag; March 14, 2019 at 05:21 PM.

March 14, 2019, 08:32 PM	#41
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	Yeah, and for now I will shoot the 300 win mag from the lead sled. I picked up 25 pounds of shot today and I have another 10 pounds already. Should make for a more comfortable load workup for those 200 grain ELDx bullets I bought this afternoon. __________________ “We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace. Be peaceful, therefore, in warring, so that you may vanquish those whom you war against, and bring them to the prosperity of peace. – St. Augustine

March 14, 2019, 09:48 PM	#42
sako2 Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2009 Posts: 738	Glad to hear it's not a rotator cuff.

March 14, 2019, 10:53 PM	#43
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,423	I've had a couple of back/neck surgeries. I went to the 260 Rem because Savage had a LH 16. I put a Boyd's Stock with Limbsaver Pad and it is mahvelous with 120-129s. I'm also having a 243 Varmint re-barreled to sporter barrel. I also LOVE my 6.5 Grendel AR. A 123SST at 2400 in .3"!!!!!

March 15, 2019, 12:39 AM	#44
ms6852 Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,394	That is pretty darn great news. Just ice it down every day for a few months. Don't push it, be patient and heal well, be inpatient and hurt longer. __________________ ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. ONE IS JESUS CHRIST FOR YOUR SOUL AND THE OTHER IS THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

March 15, 2019, 11:34 AM	#45
ifithitu Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2016 Location: Derby City KY. Posts: 243	Doctor's knows better,maybe you should keep the rifle and do what the Doctor said.lol __________________ USMC Vietnam Veteran,0311 Grunt. 6/68 to 7/69 Semper Fi

March 17, 2019, 10:12 PM	#46
Jsnake711 Member Join Date: January 18, 2019 Posts: 95	I tore my rotator cuff years ago and it was very painful. I had surgery and completely healed and I have no problems with anything. Maybe surgery should be considered and keep all of your guns I second!! Mine took 6 months to heal up, but I wouldn't sell it.

March 17, 2019, 10:44 PM	#47
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	Just stressed or sprained. No tear __________________ “We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace. Be peaceful, therefore, in warring, so that you may vanquish those whom you war against, and bring them to the prosperity of peace. – St. Augustine

March 17, 2019, 11:12 PM	#48
Colorado Redneck Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Location: Northeast Colorado Posts: 1,993	RECOIL BRAKE I have become increasingly intolerant of recoil as I'm getting up in years. I have Witt Machine clamp on brakes on a 243 and 6.5 Creedmoor. Made into pussycats. Highly recommend you try one on whatever rifle you choose. $100 gets it to you. Easy to mount.

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