Safe or not safe? - Page 2

WC145 · February 25, 2017, 08:03 AM

Driftwood - Outstanding posts and pics. Thanks for taking the time.

Hal · February 26, 2017, 05:58 AM

This thread should be a "sticky"....
Outstanding pictures and definitions of the different ways to make safe carry w/all chambers loaded...

tallball · February 26, 2017, 07:00 AM

I enjoy Driftwood's many excellent posts!

Jim Watson · February 26, 2017, 04:14 PM

Colt double actions went to the Positive safety action with hammer block about 1908. Shows up in the names of the smaller guns, Pocket Positive and Police Positive, but the Army Special and New Service got it, too. Said not to be as strong as the various S&W hammer blocks, it was still a lot better than a plain or even rebounding hammer.

Possibly the safest of the frontier guns when fully loaded was the 1858 Remington C&B with deep hammer nose notches between the nipples. Colt safety pins for the purpose got beat down in short order. Manhattan made some C&B revolvers with 12 bolt notches in the cylinder so it would be retained between chambers.

But in the 1880s, Colt would have you load six and go to the "safety notch." If you busted it out and shot yourself or your horse, just unfortunate.

dgludwig · February 27, 2017, 09:24 AM

No recalls or civil litigation back then. You were presumed to have a degree of common sense when it came to owning and handling something as inherently hazardous as a gun or a knife has the potential for.

James K · February 28, 2017, 04:50 PM

One of my favorite "duh" remarks was by a self-styled gun "expert" who wrote that "...there would have been far fewer people killed in the Civil War if guns at that time had had modern safety features." Yup. Having an enemy army shooting at you can be hazardous to the health without "modern safety features" on their guns.

Jim

Jim Watson · February 28, 2017, 04:52 PM

In those days there were more casualties from disease than combat.
Didn't have Obamacare, you know.

February 25, 2017, 08:03 AM	#26
WC145 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2008 Location: Downeast Maine Posts: 1,836	Driftwood - Outstanding posts and pics. Thanks for taking the time. __________________ "If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge or jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." - LtCol Jeff Cooper

February 27, 2017, 09:24 AM	#30
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	No recalls or civil litigation back then. You were presumed to have a degree of common sense when it came to owning and handling something as inherently hazardous as a gun or a knife has the potential for. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

February 26, 2017, 05:58 AM	#27
Hal Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 1998 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 8,563	This thread should be a "sticky".... Outstanding pictures and definitions of the different ways to make safe carry w/all chambers loaded...

February 26, 2017, 07:00 AM	#28
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	I enjoy Driftwood's many excellent posts!

February 26, 2017, 04:14 PM	#29
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	Colt double actions went to the Positive safety action with hammer block about 1908. Shows up in the names of the smaller guns, Pocket Positive and Police Positive, but the Army Special and New Service got it, too. Said not to be as strong as the various S&W hammer blocks, it was still a lot better than a plain or even rebounding hammer. Possibly the safest of the frontier guns when fully loaded was the 1858 Remington C&B with deep hammer nose notches between the nipples. Colt safety pins for the purpose got beat down in short order. Manhattan made some C&B revolvers with 12 bolt notches in the cylinder so it would be retained between chambers. But in the 1880s, Colt would have you load six and go to the "safety notch." If you busted it out and shot yourself or your horse, just unfortunate.

February 28, 2017, 04:50 PM	#31
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	One of my favorite "duh" remarks was by a self-styled gun "expert" who wrote that "...there would have been far fewer people killed in the Civil War if guns at that time had had modern safety features." Yup. Having an enemy army shooting at you can be hazardous to the health without "modern safety features" on their guns. Jim

February 28, 2017, 04:52 PM	#32
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	In those days there were more casualties from disease than combat. Didn't have Obamacare, you know.