A Letter from Senator Coburn - Page 2

JimDandy · April 16, 2013, 11:19 AM

What's the whatever in quotes?

No, I don't want a phone number so you can read my SSN to someone on the other line. I want a phone number so a bonded FFL can call it in, and do the ID specific detail work.

Neither my license nor my CPL have my SSN on it.

Willie Sutton · April 16, 2013, 04:46 PM

^^

So let me get this straight. You want all private sales to go thru a FFL where you would need to pay a fee, never mind the time spent, rather than having an online system available to joe-blow the seller so he can take a minute to make sure you aren't on the "no guns for this guy" list before he hands over something that you found on Armslist? You prefer to need to go to an FFL rather than to allow a private seller to check you out in a minute, for free, from his smartphone?

Uhh.... "whatever" ....

Willie

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**Aguila Blanca** · April 16, 2013, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimDandy

I want a phone number so a bonded FFL can call it in, and do the ID specific detail work.

FFLs are bonded?

I've never heard that before. If they are bonded, what are they bonded for or against? Does theeir bond cover knowing a customer's social security number, or does it cover just things like selling defective guns or taking money and not providing product?

csmsss · April 16, 2013, 05:27 PM

Somehow this got into the wrong thread. Weerd.

Willie Sutton · April 16, 2013, 05:37 PM

The letter sent by the Senator included his vision of an internet enabled instant background check system available to the general public. Actually the system that he proposed would allow the BUYER to run a check on himself, and then print proof of this to be provided to a seller. This would alleviate privacy concerns, as expressed above, and enable seamless private sales without delay. It's actually not a bad idea. In fact it's likely a darned good one. I missed the part about the BUYER running the check on himself when first responding.

FFL's aren't bonded for anything.

Willie

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csmsss · April 16, 2013, 05:53 PM

I think a lot of gunsmiths are bonded, and lots of gunsmiths are also FFL's - but the bonding is a function of the gunsmithing work and responsibilities.

Willie Sutton · April 16, 2013, 06:09 PM

Most FFL's are not, and ALL gunsmiths who keep work overnight are FFL's.

Willie

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April 16, 2013, 05:37 PM	#30
Willie Sutton Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2012 Posts: 1,066	The letter sent by the Senator included his vision of an internet enabled instant background check system available to the general public. Actually the system that he proposed would allow the BUYER to run a check on himself, and then print proof of this to be provided to a seller. This would alleviate privacy concerns, as expressed above, and enable seamless private sales without delay. It's actually not a bad idea. In fact it's likely a darned good one. I missed the part about the BUYER running the check on himself when first responding. FFL's aren't bonded for anything. Willie . Last edited by Evan Thomas; April 16, 2013 at 05:41 PM. Reason: remove reference to deleted post.

April 16, 2013, 11:19 AM	#26
JimDandy Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2012 Posts: 2,556	What's the whatever in quotes? No, I don't want a phone number so you can read my SSN to someone on the other line. I want a phone number so a bonded FFL can call it in, and do the ID specific detail work. Neither my license nor my CPL have my SSN on it.

April 16, 2013, 04:46 PM	#27
Willie Sutton Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2012 Posts: 1,066	^^ So let me get this straight. You want all private sales to go thru a FFL where you would need to pay a fee, never mind the time spent, rather than having an online system available to joe-blow the seller so he can take a minute to make sure you aren't on the "no guns for this guy" list before he hands over something that you found on Armslist? You prefer to need to go to an FFL rather than to allow a private seller to check you out in a minute, for free, from his smartphone? Uhh.... "whatever" .... Willie ,

April 16, 2013, 05:27 PM	#29
csmsss Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 3,078	Somehow this got into the wrong thread. Weerd.

April 16, 2013, 05:53 PM	#31
csmsss Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 3,078	I think a lot of gunsmiths are bonded, and lots of gunsmiths are also FFL's - but the bonding is a function of the gunsmithing work and responsibilities.

April 16, 2013, 06:09 PM	#32
Willie Sutton Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2012 Posts: 1,066	Most FFL's are not, and ALL gunsmiths who keep work overnight are FFL's. Willie .