Do You Practice With Air Soft Guns

mrt949 · March 21, 2009, 06:13 PM

I was loohing at them at the shot show in orlando They look great for practice with ammo being a problem in some areas.What do you think.

ken grant · March 21, 2009, 07:06 PM

I think the Airsofts are great for home training and I do it all the time.
I have Gas Blow Blacks for a Glock 19 and a 1911.
The Glock is a KWA and I have shot over 16,000 BB's through it with no problems at all. In fact, I didn't expect it to really last a long time and bought some spares but have not used them yet.
I use Coleman Propane Bottles for gas and in warm temps can get over 6,000 shots per bottle at a cost of less than $3.00 ea.
I gave one of my spares to my Grandson and he has shot I don't know how many through his and as of today, it is still going strong.

My 1911 is a WE Tactical and it gave problems at first and broke parts but after replacing them and cuting a little of the guide rod, it is going strong as well but I have not shot it as much as the KWA Glock.

DiscoRacing · March 21, 2009, 07:13 PM

i have a couple... used to shoot em all the time... now i gave em up when i started reloading rifle ammo

bigghoss · March 21, 2009, 07:58 PM

just ordered a KWA glock 18

Dave R · March 22, 2009, 12:15 AM

I use my own carry pistol, with Speer plastic training bullets. Powered by primer only. I shoot 'em in my garage, doing draw-from-cover-to-first shot drills.

Same concept, I suppose, except it really is my pistol.

I find it very valuable.

bigghoss · March 22, 2009, 12:26 PM

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I use my own carry pistol, with Speer plastic training bullets. Powered by primer only.

that wouldn't work for me because I live in an apartment.

the airsoft would allow me to practice in my home and get an good idea of clearing my apartment should I hear a bump in the night but I'm not sure if someone has actually broken in or if that crap pressboard bookshelf from walmart finally gave way.

I also plan on getting a .22 kit for when I actually get to the range

I also have the fun of a full auto airsoft pistol

Ricklin · March 22, 2009, 12:58 PM

I've been practicing with airguns for years. I've now switched to airsoft, not as accurate as a pellet pistol, but quiet and safe.

If you can shoot good groups with the crappy airsoft triggers, a real weapon is a pleasure.

Practice Practice Practice

scorpion_tyr · March 22, 2009, 08:31 PM

I'm trying to talk the wife into doing some drills and scenarios with some airsoft guns. She doesn't think it's a good idea, but I think it could be a great tool for HD.

The rubber BBs won't cause any real injuries (keep safety glasses on), but the sting you get from being shot will teach you a lesson if you're doing something wrong.

SilentHitz · March 22, 2009, 08:48 PM

I've also got a KWA 1911 blowback, just paid $59 as a close out item. Shot it so much the front sight came off, super glued it, and it eventually came off again LOL. Think it's about time I flipped for a more expensive model ( all steel), cause they're too much fun. I live in an apartment too, and it's just the ticket...got a cardboard box with target taped on it in the bedroom.

It's not too hard for my sister to tell my brother and I have been playing...she finds all the rounds that happen to wind up on the floor...usually finds a few when she runs the vacume cleaner too.

KnightZero · March 22, 2009, 09:19 PM

There are 4 Pepsi cans sitting on top of my television. I'm sitting here wishing that I had an airsoft to pick them off with. I would like to invest in a model that emulates one of my carry guns, but I can't seem to find a model of my XD or my Millennium in blowback. I'm thinking about getting the cheapo Millennium spring gun for now.

I used to have a couple of Beretta 92 spring guns, and a Glock spring gun, but they all ended up with my ex-fiancee when we broke up.

Those Pepsi cans really won't stop calling me now.

matthew temkin · March 22, 2009, 09:20 PM

Great training aids.
Fun, too.

SilentHitz · March 22, 2009, 09:52 PM

Not practical at all, but I want one of these just to play with

LOL:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GR-HWA-6801-STG.htm

Croz · March 22, 2009, 10:08 PM

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I use my own carry pistol, with Speer plastic training bullets. Powered by primer only. I shoot 'em in my garage, doing draw-from-cover-to-first shot drills.

What caliber? We used to do that when I was a kid with my dad's .38 special. I didn't think they were available in many calibers. I'd love to be able to do that with my 9mm.

NYPD13 · March 23, 2009, 06:53 AM

With the price of ammo, sure do. Besides airsoft is just plain fun.

SpookBoy · March 23, 2009, 07:15 AM

Yes i do, especially reloads. and sometimes i practice the reloads with or without a flashlight in the dark.Works for me and cheap as dirt.

bigghoss · March 23, 2009, 10:52 AM

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Not practical at all, but I want one of these just to play with LOL:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GR-HWA-6801-STG.htm

that thing is too friggin cool!

DO WANT!!!

the only cooler one I've seen was a m203 grenade launcher under an m4airsoft that shot 20 pellets at once I think.

SilentHitz · March 23, 2009, 10:57 AM

Finally ordered it this morning, just couldn't resist any longer.

Housezealot · March 23, 2009, 11:18 AM

I have got a couple of beer cans on strings I hang up and shoot at while I watch tv, and if you think Its not dangerous thats only becuse you haven't seen my wife when her vacuum sounds like a popcorn maker thanks to hundreds of pellets

I have a cheap 39 dollar spring gun, I have been wondering how many rounds you get out of the co2 guns befor you have to replace the air cartridge?
any body know off the top of their head?

SPUSCG · March 23, 2009, 01:33 PM

Airsoft I can dual wield rifles, and do. i almost solely dual weld airsoft guns, as they are so inaccurate that fun is about it. They do teach some stuff though. Like reacton time, aquiring a moving target, taking cover. It also teaches that a bush or trashcan is good cover though. Its fun though, need to get some pics of dual wielding a crossman c-11 and a G-22 airsoft.

ranburr · March 23, 2009, 01:38 PM

Great for FOF.

G-man 26 · March 23, 2009, 02:29 PM

I have a friend who trains religiously with air soft. Do you guys recommend this? He does, I haven't taken the plunge on this one yet. May have to, or not, can't decide. It sounds like fun times, but I don't know how much I would trust them as a training aide.

THEZACHARIAS · March 23, 2009, 02:48 PM

Any practice you can get will help, and airsoft definately counts. I wish the recoil on those things was a little more realistic, but it does help in other ways if you can find an airsoft gun with similar weight and balance to your normal weapon. I also consider any time spent on a paintball field as shoot-on-the-move and tactical practice as well, since its the closest thing you're going to get to being shot at with real bullets.

csmsss · March 23, 2009, 03:51 PM

Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see what benefit you get from training with an Airsoft rifle/pistol. An Airsoft pistol will feel different in your hands, will have different sights and POI, and can't duplicate the noise and muzzle flash of an actual firearm. I don't see what advantage it possesses over training with an unloaded weapon.

ranburr · March 23, 2009, 10:44 PM

CSMSSS, the advantage of training with airsoft is in force on force scenarios. It allows you to safely practice close combat drills that you can't do with live ammo for obvious reasons. I used to consider airsoft a childs toy until I went to a class that used it in FOF. It is a very eye opening experience and gives you a pretty good idea of what tactics will get you shot and which ones will get you out of the line of fire.

Doggieman · March 24, 2009, 02:57 AM

I agree Airsoft would be good for COMBAT TACTICS, but in a home defense situation there really aren't any 'tactics' per se, from all the dozens of stories I've read about them. The only tactics I've read about were that the homeowner 1) had a gun and 2) fired it at the intruders. 99.99% of all attacks are criminals looking for an easy score. Once the guns start blazing the criminals leave very quickly.

That said, if you think you're going to be in a situation where armed dudes are going to break into your place with you there and they will know you are armed and are going to do it anyway, then you might need some tactics. But if you're involved in a situation where that might happen I'd hope you'd have the cash to spend on a few bodyguards and their weaponry and/or other home defense stuff.

For the obvious reasons IMHO Airsoft are not good for standard home defense situations because they do not replicate the recoil, the DEAFENING SOUND, the acrid smell and possible smoky haze of actually firing a weapon indoors.

March 21, 2009, 06:13 PM	#1
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	Do You Practice With Air Soft Guns I was loohing at them at the shot show in orlando They look great for practice with ammo being a problem in some areas.What do you think.

March 21, 2009, 07:58 PM	#4
bigghoss Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,664	just ordered a KWA glock 18 __________________ I don't collect guns, I accumulate them. Last edited by bigghoss; March 21, 2009 at 09:05 PM.

March 22, 2009, 12:15 AM	#5
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2000 Location: Idaho Posts: 6,073	I use my own carry pistol, with Speer plastic training bullets. Powered by primer only. I shoot 'em in my garage, doing draw-from-cover-to-first shot drills. Same concept, I suppose, except it really is my pistol. I find it very valuable. __________________ I am Pro-Rights (on gun issues).

March 22, 2009, 12:58 PM	#7
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,013	Airsoft Rocks! I've been practicing with airguns for years. I've now switched to airsoft, not as accurate as a pellet pistol, but quiet and safe. If you can shoot good groups with the crappy airsoft triggers, a real weapon is a pleasure. Practice Practice Practice __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

March 22, 2009, 08:31 PM	#8
scorpion_tyr Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2008 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,326	I'm trying to talk the wife into doing some drills and scenarios with some airsoft guns. She doesn't think it's a good idea, but I think it could be a great tool for HD. The rubber BBs won't cause any real injuries (keep safety glasses on), but the sting you get from being shot will teach you a lesson if you're doing something wrong. __________________ “Nature intended me for the tranquil pursuits of science, by rendering them my supreme delight.” - Thomas Jefferson

March 21, 2009, 07:06 PM	#2
ken grant Member Join Date: December 20, 2004 Posts: 59	I think the Airsofts are great for home training and I do it all the time. I have Gas Blow Blacks for a Glock 19 and a 1911. The Glock is a KWA and I have shot over 16,000 BB's through it with no problems at all. In fact, I didn't expect it to really last a long time and bought some spares but have not used them yet. I use Coleman Propane Bottles for gas and in warm temps can get over 6,000 shots per bottle at a cost of less than $3.00 ea. I gave one of my spares to my Grandson and he has shot I don't know how many through his and as of today, it is still going strong. My 1911 is a WE Tactical and it gave problems at first and broke parts but after replacing them and cuting a little of the guide rod, it is going strong as well but I have not shot it as much as the KWA Glock.

March 21, 2009, 07:13 PM	#3
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	i have a couple... used to shoot em all the time... now i gave em up when i started reloading rifle ammo

March 22, 2009, 08:48 PM	#9
SilentHitz Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Ms. Posts: 1,984	I've also got a KWA 1911 blowback, just paid $59 as a close out item. Shot it so much the front sight came off, super glued it, and it eventually came off again LOL. Think it's about time I flipped for a more expensive model ( all steel), cause they're too much fun. I live in an apartment too, and it's just the ticket...got a cardboard box with target taped on it in the bedroom. It's not too hard for my sister to tell my brother and I have been playing...she finds all the rounds that happen to wind up on the floor...usually finds a few when she runs the vacume cleaner too. __________________ Guns don't kill people, husbands who come home early do. http://k5fv.com/

March 22, 2009, 09:19 PM	#10
KnightZero Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2008 Location: Paoli, PA (for now) Posts: 100	There are 4 Pepsi cans sitting on top of my television. I'm sitting here wishing that I had an airsoft to pick them off with. I would like to invest in a model that emulates one of my carry guns, but I can't seem to find a model of my XD or my Millennium in blowback. I'm thinking about getting the cheapo Millennium spring gun for now. I used to have a couple of Beretta 92 spring guns, and a Glock spring gun, but they all ended up with my ex-fiancee when we broke up. Those Pepsi cans really won't stop calling me now. __________________ KnightZero - Zombie Killing Mercenary Watchman for hire. Will work for food.

March 22, 2009, 09:20 PM	#11
matthew temkin Junior member Join Date: June 7, 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 363	Great training aids. Fun, too.

March 22, 2009, 09:52 PM	#12
SilentHitz Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Ms. Posts: 1,984	Not practical at all, but I want one of these just to play with LOL:http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GR-HWA-6801-STG.htm __________________ Guns don't kill people, husbands who come home early do. http://k5fv.com/

March 23, 2009, 06:53 AM	#14
NYPD13 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2008 Posts: 370	With the price of ammo, sure do. Besides airsoft is just plain fun. __________________ "THE CONSTITUTION ONLY GIVES PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE HAPPINESS, YOU HAVE TO CATCH IT YOURSELF." ~BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.

March 23, 2009, 07:15 AM	#15
SpookBoy Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2006 Location: mid tennessee Posts: 430	Yes i do, especially reloads. and sometimes i practice the reloads with or without a flashlight in the dark.Works for me and cheap as dirt. __________________ We all love gun p*rn, weather shes skinny,fat,short or tall, God made a man to love them all! "Once you familiarize yourself with the chains of bondage , You prepare your own limbs to wear them." - Abraham Lincoln

March 23, 2009, 10:57 AM	#17
SilentHitz Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Ms. Posts: 1,984	Finally ordered it this morning, just couldn't resist any longer. __________________ Guns don't kill people, husbands who come home early do. http://k5fv.com/

March 23, 2009, 11:18 AM	#18
Housezealot Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 606	I have got a couple of beer cans on strings I hang up and shoot at while I watch tv, and if you think Its not dangerous thats only becuse you haven't seen my wife when her vacuum sounds like a popcorn maker thanks to hundreds of pellets I have a cheap 39 dollar spring gun, I have been wondering how many rounds you get out of the co2 guns befor you have to replace the air cartridge? any body know off the top of their head?

March 23, 2009, 01:33 PM	#19
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	Airsoft I can dual wield rifles, and do. i almost solely dual weld airsoft guns, as they are so inaccurate that fun is about it. They do teach some stuff though. Like reacton time, aquiring a moving target, taking cover. It also teaches that a bush or trashcan is good cover though. Its fun though, need to get some pics of dual wielding a crossman c-11 and a G-22 airsoft. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

March 23, 2009, 01:38 PM	#20
ranburr Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2006 Location: TX Posts: 1,278	Great for FOF. __________________ ranburr "There are no stupid questions, just stupid people asking questions".

March 23, 2009, 02:29 PM	#21
G-man 26 Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2008 Location: southern, CA Posts: 212	I have a friend who trains religiously with air soft. Do you guys recommend this? He does, I haven't taken the plunge on this one yet. May have to, or not, can't decide. It sounds like fun times, but I don't know how much I would trust them as a training aide. __________________ "When one man speaks to another man who doesn't understand him, and when the man who's speaking no longer understands, it's metaphysics." Voltaire

March 23, 2009, 02:48 PM	#22
THEZACHARIAS Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 537	Any practice you can get will help, and airsoft definately counts. I wish the recoil on those things was a little more realistic, but it does help in other ways if you can find an airsoft gun with similar weight and balance to your normal weapon. I also consider any time spent on a paintball field as shoot-on-the-move and tactical practice as well, since its the closest thing you're going to get to being shot at with real bullets.

March 23, 2009, 03:51 PM	#23
csmsss Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 3,078	Perhaps it's just me, but I don't see what benefit you get from training with an Airsoft rifle/pistol. An Airsoft pistol will feel different in your hands, will have different sights and POI, and can't duplicate the noise and muzzle flash of an actual firearm. I don't see what advantage it possesses over training with an unloaded weapon.

March 23, 2009, 10:44 PM	#24
ranburr Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2006 Location: TX Posts: 1,278	CSMSSS, the advantage of training with airsoft is in force on force scenarios. It allows you to safely practice close combat drills that you can't do with live ammo for obvious reasons. I used to consider airsoft a childs toy until I went to a class that used it in FOF. It is a very eye opening experience and gives you a pretty good idea of what tactics will get you shot and which ones will get you out of the line of fire. __________________ ranburr "There are no stupid questions, just stupid people asking questions".

March 24, 2009, 02:57 AM	#25
Doggieman Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2006 Location: San Diego, Calif. Posts: 717	I agree Airsoft would be good for COMBAT TACTICS, but in a home defense situation there really aren't any 'tactics' per se, from all the dozens of stories I've read about them. The only tactics I've read about were that the homeowner 1) had a gun and 2) fired it at the intruders. 99.99% of all attacks are criminals looking for an easy score. Once the guns start blazing the criminals leave very quickly. That said, if you think you're going to be in a situation where armed dudes are going to break into your place with you there and they will know you are armed and are going to do it anyway, then you might need some tactics. But if you're involved in a situation where that might happen I'd hope you'd have the cash to spend on a few bodyguards and their weaponry and/or other home defense stuff. For the obvious reasons IMHO Airsoft are not good for standard home defense situations because they do not replicate the recoil, the DEAFENING SOUND, the acrid smell and possible smoky haze of actually firing a weapon indoors.