Greetings! New to the Firing Line: coyote rifle recommedations? - Page 2

reynolds357 · June 30, 2020, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Double K

Before they banned hunting lion with dogs here a friend ran a guide service, they shot most of them with either a 22 magnum rifle or pistol, one of the easiest "big game" animals there is to kill, they average 150lbs before being skinned, carcass weight is about 130. Any centerfire will be more than adequate as far as killing power.

With dogs is a game changer. The dogs keep you safe.

Sure Shot Mc Gee · June 30, 2020, 11:47 PM

I know I should voice my opinion on rifle/caliber topic as asked too.. But,~~I think its more important to advise: Buy a better than average pre-recorded Varmint Caller first thing.
Just about any long distance cartridge will get the job done. 223 22-250 270 all are purposeful fast flat shooters.

As for me at this time & date. My rifle of choice Rem model 7 223 having a old bushnell Tophy scope (japan made.) I have no allusions about killing more than one yote at a time as I seldom see two yotes hunting together or coming into shooting distance. If I were starting out? Remington sendero model 700 cal_1/4 bore ~ FOXPRO FoxJack 3 Predator motion decoy will forever garner a successful hunt. If there are yotes around?

Double K · July 1, 2020, 12:22 AM

Wyoming coyote hunt. Gets interesting at 8 minutes into video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g0-XXJ76S4

old roper · July 6, 2020, 05:13 PM

Double K,

Colorado allows dogs for lion hunt. Limit 8 dogs per pack.

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Ru...untainLion.pdf

Double K · July 6, 2020, 05:17 PM

That's surprising, when did they change it back?

old roper · July 7, 2020, 11:41 AM

I didn't know that it was change same as someone using rim fire. Far as I know it's always been center fire rifle/pistol?

skywag · July 7, 2020, 01:54 PM

I would tend to buy this: (not mine)https://www.gunbroker.com/item/873088498

Tallest · July 8, 2020, 10:20 AM

I dare say I'll be sitting alone by the fire in this camp, but I would use a .223 Wylde AR for everything you've described as long as it met legal minimums.

I have a built AR that has a 20" barrel with a 1 in 8" twist that puts 60 grain Nosler ballistic tips inside 1" at 100 yards, and Partitions only slightly wider. If VA allowed .223 for deer, I wouldn't really need another gun.

Double K · July 8, 2020, 10:23 AM

The deer must be quite a bit smaller in VA than out here in the west, no one would consider the 223 for deer hunting here even if it was legal, well anyone that's ever shot many.

Tallest · July 8, 2020, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double K

The deer must be quite a bit smaller in VA than out here in the west, no one would consider the 223 for deer hunting here even if it was legal, well anyone that's ever shot many.

That's a valid point. But I didn't think (and I could be wrong given my lack of experience) pronghorn were as big as mule/whitetail. The OP did not mention deer.

Around here a monster whitetail would be in the 200 lb category. Inside 400 yds (the max distance possible to shoot where I usually hunt) I would trust a well placed Partition. They do quite well on big Georgia hogs. I'm not saying it's optimal for big dear. But I would personally still use those in the AR before buying something bigger for the game listed.

10-96 · July 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

I'm kinda late to the show, but is there any way the OP can swing 2 rifles? The reason I ask is- I know what kind of pasture poodle towns ya'll have up there. Swapping between rifles as they get hot might save you a few bucks in the longrun. I really like the .204 Ruger- it bucks the wind better than one would expect and WAY better than the .223 Rem. I know, it gets mighty windy here too- the struggle is real. I like switching between the .204 and .243. I'd really like a .25-06, but it's a coal burner and I'm not sure that would be a whole lot of fun for very long on a prairie dog town.
The Marlin MVP is a bolt gun that uses an AR mag- you might find one in .204 Ruger.

mxsailor803 · July 12, 2020, 09:28 PM

OP, since you’re a hand loader, consider using your .270win but load it with the 110 Sierra ProHunters and push it close to 3000fps with your powder of choice. At least that’s what I use and it will blow a massive exit hole in a yote. If you want to keep the pelts, gonna need another rifle lol.

Don Fischer · July 27, 2020, 11:00 AM

I've actually gone out looking for coyote's a few time's but a coyote hunter I am not. That said I have two rifles I imagined just for coyote's. Both are 243's. One shoot's 70 SMK's and the other 75gr Hornady V-Max. They are fast and flat and I'd think buck the wind better than slower 22 cal bullet's. Another cartridge I'd think would be good would be the 22-250. But from what I've read over the years, it's at it's best with 50gr bullet's, wind would probably blow them allover. Maybe with a fast twist barrel and heavy bullet's? Cartridge that might be really good I'd think would be a 220 Swift with a fast twist barrel handling heavy bullet's. I think the Swift was also designed to handle 50gr bullet's at a gazillion MPH but just imagine one set up with a fast twist for maybe 70 gr bullet's!

Quite sure the 223 would be useable but don't think it would handle wind as well as a fast twist 22-250 or 220 Swift, with say 70gr bullet's. 260, 270 ect for me would just be to much, who want's to deal with recoil at all? Yea, a fast twist Swift might be just the thing. Fast heavy bullet's might help cut down on barrel wear. Guess I'l sticK to looking at my 243's!

Don Fischer · July 27, 2020, 11:10 AM

Going backthrough I see people mentioning rifles too. Well one of my 243's is a 700 ADL and I absolutely love it. The other is a Mossberg Patriot and no complaints, shoot's right along with the 700. Both 1/2" rifles. I wonder about the patriot sometimes and it's bedding system. Would love to change it from that plastic inlay or find a way to bed it, Not that it seem's to need it right now. Also don't care for the trigger guard, plastic and to much torque on the stock bolt destroys it. Metal triger guard I think would be much better.

July 1, 2020, 12:22 AM	#28
Double K Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2020 Location: Colorado Posts: 486	Wyoming coyote hunt. Gets interesting at 8 minutes into video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g0-XXJ76S4 Last edited by Double K; July 3, 2020 at 05:17 PM.

July 6, 2020, 05:13 PM	#29
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 2,155	Double K, Colorado allows dogs for lion hunt. Limit 8 dogs per pack. https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Ru...untainLion.pdf __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam 1965 VFW Life member NRA Life Member

July 7, 2020, 11:41 AM	#31
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 2,155	I didn't know that it was change same as someone using rim fire. Far as I know it's always been center fire rifle/pistol? __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam 1965 VFW Life member NRA Life Member

July 8, 2020, 10:20 AM	#33
Tallest Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2016 Location: West of the Atlantic Posts: 418	I dare say I'll be sitting alone by the fire in this camp, but I would use a .223 Wylde AR for everything you've described as long as it met legal minimums. I have a built AR that has a 20" barrel with a 1 in 8" twist that puts 60 grain Nosler ballistic tips inside 1" at 100 yards, and Partitions only slightly wider. If VA allowed .223 for deer, I wouldn't really need another gun. __________________ Matthew "All men are ignorant. The topics of our ignorance may vary, but the nature of the world is that no man may know everything." ~ R Jordan

July 10, 2020, 10:00 PM	#36
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,159	I'm kinda late to the show, but is there any way the OP can swing 2 rifles? The reason I ask is- I know what kind of pasture poodle towns ya'll have up there. Swapping between rifles as they get hot might save you a few bucks in the longrun. I really like the .204 Ruger- it bucks the wind better than one would expect and WAY better than the .223 Rem. I know, it gets mighty windy here too- the struggle is real. I like switching between the .204 and .243. I'd really like a .25-06, but it's a coal burner and I'm not sure that would be a whole lot of fun for very long on a prairie dog town. The Marlin MVP is a bolt gun that uses an AR mag- you might find one in .204 Ruger. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

June 30, 2020, 11:47 PM	#27
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,876	I know I should voice my opinion on rifle/caliber topic as asked too.. But,~~I think its more important to advise: Buy a better than average pre-recorded Varmint Caller first thing. Just about any long distance cartridge will get the job done. 223 22-250 270 all are purposeful fast flat shooters. As for me at this time & date. My rifle of choice Rem model 7 223 having a old bushnell Tophy scope (japan made.) I have no allusions about killing more than one yote at a time as I seldom see two yotes hunting together or coming into shooting distance. If I were starting out? Remington sendero model 700 cal_1/4 bore ~ FOXPRO FoxJack 3 Predator motion decoy will forever garner a successful hunt. If there are yotes around?

July 6, 2020, 05:17 PM	#30
Double K Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2020 Location: Colorado Posts: 486	That's surprising, when did they change it back?

July 7, 2020, 01:54 PM	#32
skywag Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2011 Posts: 254	I would tend to buy this: (not mine)https://www.gunbroker.com/item/873088498

July 8, 2020, 10:23 AM	#34
Double K Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2020 Location: Colorado Posts: 486	The deer must be quite a bit smaller in VA than out here in the west, no one would consider the 223 for deer hunting here even if it was legal, well anyone that's ever shot many.

July 12, 2020, 09:28 PM	#37
mxsailor803 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2010 Location: SC Posts: 1,344	OP, since you’re a hand loader, consider using your .270win but load it with the 110 Sierra ProHunters and push it close to 3000fps with your powder of choice. At least that’s what I use and it will blow a massive exit hole in a yote. If you want to keep the pelts, gonna need another rifle lol.

July 27, 2020, 11:00 AM	#38
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	I've actually gone out looking for coyote's a few time's but a coyote hunter I am not. That said I have two rifles I imagined just for coyote's. Both are 243's. One shoot's 70 SMK's and the other 75gr Hornady V-Max. They are fast and flat and I'd think buck the wind better than slower 22 cal bullet's. Another cartridge I'd think would be good would be the 22-250. But from what I've read over the years, it's at it's best with 50gr bullet's, wind would probably blow them allover. Maybe with a fast twist barrel and heavy bullet's? Cartridge that might be really good I'd think would be a 220 Swift with a fast twist barrel handling heavy bullet's. I think the Swift was also designed to handle 50gr bullet's at a gazillion MPH but just imagine one set up with a fast twist for maybe 70 gr bullet's! Quite sure the 223 would be useable but don't think it would handle wind as well as a fast twist 22-250 or 220 Swift, with say 70gr bullet's. 260, 270 ect for me would just be to much, who want's to deal with recoil at all? Yea, a fast twist Swift might be just the thing. Fast heavy bullet's might help cut down on barrel wear. Guess I'l sticK to looking at my 243's!

July 27, 2020, 11:10 AM	#39
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	Going backthrough I see people mentioning rifles too. Well one of my 243's is a 700 ADL and I absolutely love it. The other is a Mossberg Patriot and no complaints, shoot's right along with the 700. Both 1/2" rifles. I wonder about the patriot sometimes and it's bedding system. Would love to change it from that plastic inlay or find a way to bed it, Not that it seem's to need it right now. Also don't care for the trigger guard, plastic and to much torque on the stock bolt destroys it. Metal triger guard I think would be much better.