Ruger Single-Ten vs. Single-Six.

hulley · February 25, 2013, 12:35 PM

Hello everybody, I've got an itch for a Ruger Single-Ten but I have a question on the Singel-Six.

From what I understand the Six has a different cylinder for the .22WMR round due to the round being a tad larger than .22lr.

Will shooting .22lr be less accurate than the .22WMR because of the slighty larger bore (or twist rate)?

I shoot mainly .22lr and dont really see a need (yet) for the .22WMR round but if it really makes no difference (besides cylinder count) I just assume get the Single-Six. If the Single-Ten is more accurate than thats the one for me.

Thanks
Steve

Jayhawkhuntclub · February 25, 2013, 01:39 PM

The accuracy issue is a theoretical. In fact I say it's a myth based on my experiences with Super Single Sixes. My Single Six Hunter averages 1.31" for 5 shots at FIFTY yards with a 4x scope, CCI standard velocity shells and sandbags. The best 50 yard 5 shot group I shot with it was 0.517"! Now that was an exception, but still VERY impressive. I found Single Sixes to be very accurate with 22LR. In some cases, they are more accurate that with the 22 mag. I would pass on the single 10 and go with the Single Six.

scrubcedar · February 25, 2013, 02:36 PM

I think they use the same barrels for both guns regardless.
If there is a way to handle them both while they are loaded it might be a good idea. The Single Six points and balances better than any other pistol I've ever had. With ten rather than six in the cylinder it might balance differently.

hulley · February 25, 2013, 02:44 PM

Whoa Jayhawk! thats some impressive shooting! My LGS has a Single-Ten for $499 and they will give a 3% discount if paid with cash. I'm thinking they may have a Single-Six as well. The 10rds vs. 6rds doesnt matter much as this will be a "fun" gun. I bet the .22WMR does a number on squirrels!

hulley · February 25, 2013, 02:46 PM

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The Single Six points and balances better than any other pistol I've ever had. With ten rather than six in the cylinder it might balance differently.

One thing that people mention alot is how well the Six balances. I'll see if I can try both.

Magnum Wheel Man · February 25, 2013, 02:48 PM

I have a single 10 that I don't really like... I guess I should have bought the single six...

I haven't slugged the barrel, but my accuracy is nothing to brag about, so I expect they use the same bore...

also, I find it challenging to push out the spent cartridges... they are too close, & the single 10 doesn't have a reverse indexing option, so if you go past one, you need to rotate the cylinder all the way to pick up the one you missed

Erno86 · February 25, 2013, 04:30 PM

I'm impressed with my Stainless {22lr/22WMR} Ruger Single Six Hunter...that is mounted with a 3X Nikon pistol scope.

Good luck in finding a new one though --- I believe Ruger has backlogged orders for the "Hunter" --- with at least a one year wait.

weblance · February 25, 2013, 08:56 PM

I have both in 5.5". The Single Ten does indeed have the .224 bore barrel(same as the SS, for magnum shooting). My Single Ten is exceptionally accurate. It will group as good as my Mark II Target. 2" groups are the norm at 25 yards rested. For a "fun gun" I think the Ten is about perfect. The Six simply runs out of ammo too quickly when plinking. I really like my Single Six, but I love my Single Ten.

The Great Mahoo · February 25, 2013, 10:05 PM

I had been thinking about a single ten, but recently opted for the six instead. I liked the appeal of being able to shoot mags if I want. So far, I have no regrets on the Six, but it does tend to run dry pretty quickly.

Maybe I'll eventually pick up a Ten, too, but I think this Six will be with me for a very long time.

scrubcedar · February 25, 2013, 10:47 PM

Mahoo, I always carried mine loaded on the ranch with the .22 mags.
It turned it from a plinker into protection from rattlesnakes and even cougars.
It was a little light for cougars except for head shots, but if they were close enough to have to shoot them, a head shot would be easy.
In a pinch I'd even use it against humans. Not because I thought it was a good SD caliber, but because it was always so easy to hit what I aimed at. Two head shots on Prairie Rattler's when I was cornered and had to hit on the first shot were mighty convincing.

Rifleman1776 · February 26, 2013, 09:45 AM

Can't add much that hasn't been said. My SS is one of my favorite guns. I just plain feels 'right' in my hand.
It is not only a fun gun but a working gun. Has dispatched many unwanted varmints and critters at my farm and property.
I rarely use the mag. rounds, too expensive for pliniking and fun. But, I did use the mag. cylinder with shot rounds to kill many-many chipmunks at a house we bought that was infested with them. Also killed a number of snakes with same shot rounds.
Interestingly, for self-defense, I have had to produce a gun three times in my life for self-defense. On all three of those occasions it was the little ole .22lr Ruger single-six. Never shot the bad guys, they were smart enough to depart the scene when my gun was displayed. They never questioned caliber.

pete2 · February 26, 2013, 11:30 AM

My SS is more accurate with .22 LR than with the .22 mag.

hulley · February 26, 2013, 01:25 PM

Thanks for the replies. I'm gonna go for the Single-Six. I think it's be nice to have the abilty to use .22mag when I want, that and its just plain cool to have both.

maybe I can find one soon.

Rogervzv · March 1, 2013, 11:45 AM

Good thread. I am looking for a Single Six now. None in stock at the LGS at the moment, alas.

rclark · March 1, 2013, 11:56 AM

I do like my 6 1/2" barreled Single-Six. Plenty accurate. The WMR cylinder has only had a 100 round box go through it just to verify it 'worked'

. Thousands of .22LR have been sent down range though. No experience with the Single-Ten other than I did hold one at the range once. Didn't like the front sight, but that can be changed out for more 'traditional' post. To me a six-gun is well a six-gun ... not 10 or 9 or ... 6 is the number with sometimes only 5 loaded

. I know in some of the old westerns they seemed to have 20 shooters ... but ....

hulley · March 1, 2013, 01:50 PM

I'm having a pretty hard time finding a Single-Six locally, found a stainless Single-Ten. Dont really want to order online, hopefully soon. I'll post pics when I get it.

Jayhawkhuntclub · March 1, 2013, 01:51 PM

Hulley: Good decision! I'm sure the single 10 is also a fine gun. BUT for me, I don't get the idea of 10 shots in a single action. I think it's okay for a DA gun. But a single action is about taking your time. It's not about throwing as much lead down range as you can. Of course some of those cowboy movies have 10 and 20 round SAs in them.

Everybody needs at least 1 Single 6. Personally, it's a gun that I would be fine with ordering online, so long as it was NIB.

Rogervzv · March 3, 2013, 11:26 AM

The Single Ten handles and feels almost identical to a Single Six. The only real differences are the ten shots and no .22 WMR capability. Those are the trade-offs. Both are wonderful SA revolvers, heirloom quality and typically with superb fit and finish.

johnwilliamson062 · March 4, 2013, 01:23 AM

I called Ruger about this when it came up a few years ago. After several calls going through several CS people and checking with technical people, they use the same barrel for both and have since shortly after introducing the conversion.

February 25, 2013, 12:35 PM	#1
hulley Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2008 Location: Hoschton, Ga. Posts: 726	Ruger Single-Ten vs. Single-Six. Hello everybody, I've got an itch for a Ruger Single-Ten but I have a question on the Singel-Six. From what I understand the Six has a different cylinder for the .22WMR round due to the round being a tad larger than .22lr. Will shooting .22lr be less accurate than the .22WMR because of the slighty larger bore (or twist rate)? I shoot mainly .22lr and dont really see a need (yet) for the .22WMR round but if it really makes no difference (besides cylinder count) I just assume get the Single-Six. If the Single-Ten is more accurate than thats the one for me. Thanks Steve __________________ Nov 2, 2011 sent form 4, SS Sparrow. Arrived May 29, 2012. Jan 30, 2012 sent form 1 for SBR. Arrived July 12, 2012 Jan 22, 2013 Sent form 4, 762-SDN-6. Arrived Sept 13, 2013

February 25, 2013, 02:36 PM	#3
scrubcedar Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Southwestern Colorado Posts: 507	I think they use the same barrels for both guns regardless. If there is a way to handle them both while they are loaded it might be a good idea. The Single Six points and balances better than any other pistol I've ever had. With ten rather than six in the cylinder it might balance differently. __________________ Gaily bedight, A gallant knight In sunshine and in shadow, Had journeyed long, Singing a song, In search of El Dorado

February 25, 2013, 02:44 PM	#4
hulley Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2008 Location: Hoschton, Ga. Posts: 726	Whoa Jayhawk! thats some impressive shooting! My LGS has a Single-Ten for $499 and they will give a 3% discount if paid with cash. I'm thinking they may have a Single-Six as well. The 10rds vs. 6rds doesnt matter much as this will be a "fun" gun. I bet the .22WMR does a number on squirrels! __________________ Nov 2, 2011 sent form 4, SS Sparrow. Arrived May 29, 2012. Jan 30, 2012 sent form 1 for SBR. Arrived July 12, 2012 Jan 22, 2013 Sent form 4, 762-SDN-6. Arrived Sept 13, 2013

February 25, 2013, 02:48 PM	#6
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	I have a single 10 that I don't really like... I guess I should have bought the single six... I haven't slugged the barrel, but my accuracy is nothing to brag about, so I expect they use the same bore... also, I find it challenging to push out the spent cartridges... they are too close, & the single 10 doesn't have a reverse indexing option, so if you go past one, you need to rotate the cylinder all the way to pick up the one you missed __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

February 25, 2013, 04:30 PM	#7
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	I'm impressed with my Stainless {22lr/22WMR} Ruger Single Six Hunter...that is mounted with a 3X Nikon pistol scope. Good luck in finding a new one though --- I believe Ruger has backlogged orders for the "Hunter" --- with at least a one year wait. Last edited by Erno86; February 25, 2013 at 04:37 PM.

February 25, 2013, 01:39 PM	#2
Jayhawkhuntclub Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2007 Posts: 581	The accuracy issue is a theoretical. In fact I say it's a myth based on my experiences with Super Single Sixes. My Single Six Hunter averages 1.31" for 5 shots at FIFTY yards with a 4x scope, CCI standard velocity shells and sandbags. The best 50 yard 5 shot group I shot with it was 0.517"! Now that was an exception, but still VERY impressive. I found Single Sixes to be very accurate with 22LR. In some cases, they are more accurate that with the 22 mag. I would pass on the single 10 and go with the Single Six.

February 25, 2013, 08:56 PM	#8
weblance Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Posts: 1,229	I have both in 5.5". The Single Ten does indeed have the .224 bore barrel(same as the SS, for magnum shooting). My Single Ten is exceptionally accurate. It will group as good as my Mark II Target. 2" groups are the norm at 25 yards rested. For a "fun gun" I think the Ten is about perfect. The Six simply runs out of ammo too quickly when plinking. I really like my Single Six, but I love my Single Ten.

February 25, 2013, 10:05 PM	#9
The Great Mahoo Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2008 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 1,269	Ruger Single-Ten vs. Single-Six. I had been thinking about a single ten, but recently opted for the six instead. I liked the appeal of being able to shoot mags if I want. So far, I have no regrets on the Six, but it does tend to run dry pretty quickly. Maybe I'll eventually pick up a Ten, too, but I think this Six will be with me for a very long time.

February 25, 2013, 10:47 PM	#10
scrubcedar Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Southwestern Colorado Posts: 507	Mahoo, I always carried mine loaded on the ranch with the .22 mags. It turned it from a plinker into protection from rattlesnakes and even cougars. It was a little light for cougars except for head shots, but if they were close enough to have to shoot them, a head shot would be easy. In a pinch I'd even use it against humans. Not because I thought it was a good SD caliber, but because it was always so easy to hit what I aimed at. Two head shots on Prairie Rattler's when I was cornered and had to hit on the first shot were mighty convincing. __________________ Gaily bedight, A gallant knight In sunshine and in shadow, Had journeyed long, Singing a song, In search of El Dorado

February 26, 2013, 09:45 AM	#11
Rifleman1776 Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,309	Can't add much that hasn't been said. My SS is one of my favorite guns. I just plain feels 'right' in my hand. It is not only a fun gun but a working gun. Has dispatched many unwanted varmints and critters at my farm and property. I rarely use the mag. rounds, too expensive for pliniking and fun. But, I did use the mag. cylinder with shot rounds to kill many-many chipmunks at a house we bought that was infested with them. Also killed a number of snakes with same shot rounds. Interestingly, for self-defense, I have had to produce a gun three times in my life for self-defense. On all three of those occasions it was the little ole .22lr Ruger single-six. Never shot the bad guys, they were smart enough to depart the scene when my gun was displayed. They never questioned caliber.

February 26, 2013, 11:30 AM	#12
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	My SS is more accurate with .22 LR than with the .22 mag.

February 26, 2013, 01:25 PM	#13
hulley Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2008 Location: Hoschton, Ga. Posts: 726	Thanks for the replies. I'm gonna go for the Single-Six. I think it's be nice to have the abilty to use .22mag when I want, that and its just plain cool to have both. maybe I can find one soon. __________________ Nov 2, 2011 sent form 4, SS Sparrow. Arrived May 29, 2012. Jan 30, 2012 sent form 1 for SBR. Arrived July 12, 2012 Jan 22, 2013 Sent form 4, 762-SDN-6. Arrived Sept 13, 2013

March 1, 2013, 11:45 AM	#14
Rogervzv Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 1,075	Good thread. I am looking for a Single Six now. None in stock at the LGS at the moment, alas. __________________ The difference between a citizen and a civilian is that the citizen makes the safety of the body politic his personal responsibility, protecting it with his life. The civilian does not.

March 1, 2013, 11:56 AM	#15
rclark Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2009 Location: Butte, MT Posts: 2,622	I do like my 6 1/2" barreled Single-Six. Plenty accurate. The WMR cylinder has only had a 100 round box go through it just to verify it 'worked' . Thousands of .22LR have been sent down range though. No experience with the Single-Ten other than I did hold one at the range once. Didn't like the front sight, but that can be changed out for more 'traditional' post. To me a six-gun is well a six-gun ... not 10 or 9 or ... 6 is the number with sometimes only 5 loaded . I know in some of the old westerns they seemed to have 20 shooters ... but .... __________________ A clinger and deplorable, MAGA, and life NRA member. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Single Action .45 Colt (Sometimes colloquially referred to by its alias as the .45 'Long' Colt or .45LC). Don't leave home without it. That said, the .44Spec is right up their too... but the .45 Colt is still the king.

March 1, 2013, 01:50 PM	#16
hulley Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2008 Location: Hoschton, Ga. Posts: 726	I'm having a pretty hard time finding a Single-Six locally, found a stainless Single-Ten. Dont really want to order online, hopefully soon. I'll post pics when I get it. __________________ Nov 2, 2011 sent form 4, SS Sparrow. Arrived May 29, 2012. Jan 30, 2012 sent form 1 for SBR. Arrived July 12, 2012 Jan 22, 2013 Sent form 4, 762-SDN-6. Arrived Sept 13, 2013

March 1, 2013, 01:51 PM	#17
Jayhawkhuntclub Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2007 Posts: 581	Hulley: Good decision! I'm sure the single 10 is also a fine gun. BUT for me, I don't get the idea of 10 shots in a single action. I think it's okay for a DA gun. But a single action is about taking your time. It's not about throwing as much lead down range as you can. Of course some of those cowboy movies have 10 and 20 round SAs in them. Everybody needs at least 1 Single 6. Personally, it's a gun that I would be fine with ordering online, so long as it was NIB.

March 3, 2013, 11:26 AM	#18
Rogervzv Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 1,075	The Single Ten handles and feels almost identical to a Single Six. The only real differences are the ten shots and no .22 WMR capability. Those are the trade-offs. Both are wonderful SA revolvers, heirloom quality and typically with superb fit and finish. __________________ The difference between a citizen and a civilian is that the citizen makes the safety of the body politic his personal responsibility, protecting it with his life. The civilian does not.

March 4, 2013, 01:23 AM	#19
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I called Ruger about this when it came up a few years ago. After several calls going through several CS people and checking with technical people, they use the same barrel for both and have since shortly after introducing the conversion.