Black Powder Accessories - Very Handy to Have!

DennisCA · December 15, 2014, 11:47 AM

Last after I got back from the range shooting my new black powder (which was a blast btw!) and was cleaning it. I was almost done, I ran my final patch through it (that had a bit of oil on it) and when I pulled the cleaning rod out: NO PATCH!
(I had run out of my reg patches and was using other type - a bit thinner; big mistake!!!)
Crap I thought (that's the PG-Version

) now what?
I tired shaking it - hoping the it would come out but didn't. I thought about running some water down the barrel but there had to be a another way.
After about about a minute I remembered: I have a patch-puller!
I attached it to the end of of my ramrod and after a bit of work - out came the patch! It's a small item that doesn't cost that much but it just paid for itself! The funny thing is I almost didn't buy one but I did it after a couple of recommendations, I'm glad I did! (along with a few other items)
Looking back I still don't see how that patch came off, stuff happens I guess.

So for those who are just starting out in BP; buy the (at least the basic) accessories - One day you'll be glad you did!!

wogpotter · December 15, 2014, 12:02 PM

That & a "ball puller" can be your best friends!

**4V50 Gary** · December 15, 2014, 12:50 PM

Possibles Bags are for anything possible. BTW, I put all my stuff into an Altoid tin. Keeps everything neater.

wogpotter · December 15, 2014, 04:28 PM

Wow you have less "shtuff" than I do, mine will barely fit in an ammo can!

Pahoo · December 15, 2014, 04:47 PM

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I put all my stuff into an Altoid tin. Keeps everything neater.

I think that Gary is referring to his Jags, pullers, screws and scrapers. I also use my patch puller to break up caked powder at the bottom of the bore after I pull a projectile. Many times I loose concentration and have to start all over, on loading. Brushes, swabs and nipple picks also come in handy. .....

Be Safe !!!

Hawg · December 15, 2014, 05:21 PM

Do yourself a favor and clean with bore mops instead of patches.

DennisCA · December 15, 2014, 06:10 PM

Hawg - The funny thing is I have several of them but elected to use a patch instead - lesson learned

FrontierGander · December 15, 2014, 06:22 PM

Bore mops are nice for oiling or even cleaning the patent breech, but I like to use a real tight patch and get all that fouling from the rifling.

Hawg · December 15, 2014, 07:31 PM

Mine come out squeaky clean.

Pahoo · December 15, 2014, 07:59 PM

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I was almost done, I ran my final patch through it (that had a bit of oil on it) and when I pulled the cleaning rod out: NO PATCH!

I routinely teach M/L's and the one thing that makes it difficult, is "Murphy's Law". We have all been faced with this problem and through experience, we learn how to work out of it. Most of the problems are self inflicted and that's all part of the learning curve. I guess that's one reason we have so many specialized accessories. .....

I once got a phone call from an instructor that was unable to shoot a Knight MK-85. Stated that it needed cleaning as the primer was not going off. I asked him if he had the rear safety disengaged. He was not aware that there are two safeties on the MK-85. Lesson learned; read the manual. .....

Be Safe !!!

Sure Shot Mc Gee · December 15, 2014, 08:05 PM

At a time what seemed to be the end of a great shooting day because of a (stuck patch) I would rather have found a sandwich in that possibles bag verses a patch puller. Simple stuck patch what so hard about removing that. Paper clip some Duck tape your back in business.

kwhi43 · December 16, 2014, 02:14 AM

This is what I use for a dry load. Just take out the nipple and squirt some 4 F
priming powder in the hole. I use a Small Elmer's Glue bottle. Twist to open.
This works very well. I have a bottle like this in all my shooting boxes.

I take old metal powder cans and cut them in half to put in my shooting box.
Takes up a lot less room. Also push this device into the opening. This way your
powder will always be closed when you set it down.

bedbugbilly · December 16, 2014, 02:30 PM

And if you want that Altoid tin to have a nice "primitive look" - put it in a hot oven and heat it up and burn the paint off. I use one to keep all of my jags, etc. in as well - slips right in the hunting bag and everything is there if needed.

maillemaker · December 16, 2014, 02:39 PM

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Do yourself a favor and clean with bore mops instead of patches.

How does this work at the range? I would think a bore mop would get really dirty after 2 or 3 cleanings and no longer be effective. Unless maybe you had a bucket of water to clean it in?

Steve

noelf2 · December 16, 2014, 03:26 PM

I believe Hawg was referring to the Op's situation. He was "back from the range" and cleaning his BP firearm. I use a bore mop for the real cleaning also, but I do run a lightly oiled patch down the barrel afterwards. Works great. I use jags with wet and dry patches at the range and in the woods for follow up shots.

Pahoo · December 17, 2014, 04:33 PM

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Hawg · December 19, 2014, 07:01 PM

My backyard is my range and I never clean until I'm done shooting. I never saw the need to clean between shots.

December 15, 2014, 11:47 AM	#1
DennisCA Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2012 Location: Union City CA (a.k.a. Poople's Republik of CA) Posts: 451	Black Powder Accessories - Very Handy to Have! Last after I got back from the range shooting my new black powder (which was a blast btw!) and was cleaning it. I was almost done, I ran my final patch through it (that had a bit of oil on it) and when I pulled the cleaning rod out: NO PATCH! (I had run out of my reg patches and was using other type - a bit thinner; big mistake!!!) Crap I thought (that's the PG-Version ) now what? I tired shaking it - hoping the it would come out but didn't. I thought about running some water down the barrel but there had to be a another way. After about about a minute I remembered: I have a patch-puller! I attached it to the end of of my ramrod and after a bit of work - out came the patch! It's a small item that doesn't cost that much but it just paid for itself! The funny thing is I almost didn't buy one but I did it after a couple of recommendations, I'm glad I did! (along with a few other items) Looking back I still don't see how that patch came off, stuff happens I guess. So for those who are just starting out in BP; buy the (at least the basic) accessories - One day you'll be glad you did!!

December 15, 2014, 12:02 PM	#2
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	That & a "ball puller" can be your best friends! __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

December 15, 2014, 12:50 PM	#3
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	Possibles Bags are for anything possible. BTW, I put all my stuff into an Altoid tin. Keeps everything neater. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

December 15, 2014, 04:28 PM	#4
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Wow you have less "shtuff" than I do, mine will barely fit in an ammo can! __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

December 15, 2014, 06:22 PM	#8
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	Bore mops are nice for oiling or even cleaning the patent breech, but I like to use a real tight patch and get all that fouling from the rifling. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

December 15, 2014, 05:21 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Do yourself a favor and clean with bore mops instead of patches.

December 15, 2014, 06:10 PM	#7
DennisCA Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2012 Location: Union City CA (a.k.a. Poople's Republik of CA) Posts: 451	Hawg - The funny thing is I have several of them but elected to use a patch instead - lesson learned

December 15, 2014, 07:31 PM	#9
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	Mine come out squeaky clean.

December 15, 2014, 08:05 PM	#11
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,876	At a time what seemed to be the end of a great shooting day because of a (stuck patch) I would rather have found a sandwich in that possibles bag verses a patch puller. Simple stuck patch what so hard about removing that. Paper clip some Duck tape your back in business.

December 16, 2014, 02:14 AM	#12
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	This is what I use for a dry load. Just take out the nipple and squirt some 4 F priming powder in the hole. I use a Small Elmer's Glue bottle. Twist to open. This works very well. I have a bottle like this in all my shooting boxes. I take old metal powder cans and cut them in half to put in my shooting box. Takes up a lot less room. Also push this device into the opening. This way your powder will always be closed when you set it down. Last edited by kwhi43; December 16, 2014 at 02:29 AM.

December 16, 2014, 02:30 PM	#13
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	And if you want that Altoid tin to have a nice "primitive look" - put it in a hot oven and heat it up and burn the paint off. I use one to keep all of my jags, etc. in as well - slips right in the hunting bag and everything is there if needed. __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63

December 16, 2014, 03:26 PM	#15
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	I believe Hawg was referring to the Op's situation. He was "back from the range" and cleaning his BP firearm. I use a bore mop for the real cleaning also, but I do run a lightly oiled patch down the barrel afterwards. Works great. I use jags with wet and dry patches at the range and in the woods for follow up shots. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

December 17, 2014, 04:33 PM	#16
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	Deleted Deleted __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.

December 19, 2014, 07:01 PM	#17
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,190	My backyard is my range and I never clean until I'm done shooting. I never saw the need to clean between shots.