One suppressor, multiple firearms?

ThePBM · September 5, 2008, 09:07 PM

I just read somewhere that mentioned someone having a suppressor that they moved onto different firearms.
My question is- if I went through the hoops and got a suppressor, are all the fees and stamp and such only connected to the suppressor? Will they not know or care what guns I am putting it on? Do they only care about my ownership of the suppressor?
That totally makes a suppressor a lot more feasible if I won't have to jump through the hoops PER firearm that I have and want to suppress. It never occurred to me that I might only have to get 1 suppressor and just thread my firearms.
Suppressing just one gun for that cost isn't worth it to me, but if it can be used on other guns without legal problems then definitely worth it.
This is all taking into account that these multiple firearms are the same caliber and such.

Hkmp5sd · September 5, 2008, 09:12 PM

The suppressor is registered and has a serial number. It is the controlled item. ATF doesn't care what gun you put it on. If it fits your buddy's gun, you can put it on his gun and shoot it.

ThePBM · September 5, 2008, 09:46 PM

fan freakin tastic

now to do some research on awesome 9mm suppressors
btw- does nobody call them silencers anymore?

B. Lahey · September 5, 2008, 10:23 PM

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does nobody call them silencers anymore?

I think that's the word used in some of the laws, so yes.

aroundlsu · September 6, 2008, 10:00 AM

Silencer, suppressor, muffler, can, snuffer... anyone know any others?

Crosshair · September 6, 2008, 10:15 AM

I use the term can and suppressor. Online, I normally use the work "can" since it is easier to type.

If you are interested in 9mm suppressors, I'm waiting for the AAC Enigma to be released. It is like the Trident-9, another excellent design, except you will be able to take it apart for cleaning, important if you shoot cast bullets. It will be an extremely versatile design.

ThePBM · September 6, 2008, 11:33 AM

Sounds awesome. I will eventually be casting my own bullets, so I'll keep an eye out on that can. Thank you for sharing.

RAnb · September 6, 2008, 11:45 AM

Silencer is what Maxim called them when he started to market them over 100 years ago. In the UK some people use the words silencer and muffler to denote their use on engines.

Silencer is a legal term in the USA, I do not think the ATF will approve a form 1 or 4 if a person writes in any other word than silencer.

Occasionally someone will tell me that I do not know about silencers because I do not call them suppressors. They are a comical combination of ignorance and arrogance.

Ranb

freakshow10mm · September 6, 2008, 11:46 AM

I use the term suppressor as that is what it does. Many people use silencer and that to me is like calling a magazine a clip.

In England, they are known as moderators.

David Hineline · September 9, 2008, 12:59 AM

Industry profesionals use the term equally, so does the leagle beagles, the term silencer only seems to effect wanna be operators in a negative way.

freakshow10mm · September 9, 2008, 01:29 AM

Cute. So I'm a wannabe operator because I prefer the term "suppressor"?

zippy13 · September 9, 2008, 12:53 PM

Who are you talking with...
The term firearm silencer is unambiguous. To many, especially the anti-gun crowd, it conjures up images of sinister deeds. Within the gun community, suppressor is synonymous with silencer. Yet, to the general public it's ambiguous, might not a supressor be a magazine plug, recoil reducer or flash hider?

David Hineline · September 9, 2008, 12:54 PM

If you are offended at all by an insinuation that you might be a wanna be operator then yes you are a wanna be operator.

Let's ask the profesionals.

They talk about silencers http://www.silencertalk.com
They talk about silencers http://www.silencerresearch.com
They make and sell silencers http://www.advanced-armament.com/silencers.asp
Even paint ball operators understand the terms mean the same thing.
http://forum.specialopspaintball.com...showtopic=1211

This company sells silencers http://www.impactguns.com/store/awc.html

I am sure you or I can find just as many profesionals who use supressor, just as many use sound moderator, etc. as they are the same.

freakshow10mm · September 13, 2008, 11:11 AM

If you can still hear something, it isn't silenced is it?

The NFA law uses the term silencer. Suppressor is a more accurate term for what it does.

LFOD1776 · September 13, 2008, 12:41 PM

Hey Freakshow, it's not like magazine/clip at all. Those are two terms that refer to different things, and the uninitiated don't understand the difference. Silencer and suppressor are two terms that refer to the same thing...

Now by all means, go ahead and prefer to use one term over the other! The inventor, Hiram Maxim, marketed his invention using the term "silencer". On that authority, I don't think that any criticism of people who choose to use that term is legitimate.

It doesn't make you a "wanna be operator" when you insist that the term "silencer" is somehow inappropriate. But it does make you wrong.

freakshow10mm · September 13, 2008, 02:45 PM

I never said it was inappropriate, just not accurate.

Michael A. Le Lack · September 13, 2008, 04:10 PM

I would like to ad my 2 cents

oldcspsarge · September 13, 2008, 04:38 PM

http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/

Yankee Hill Machine makes very high quality supressors.

They have a lifetime warranty, good sound reduction and great support.

If you are thinking of 40S&W or 45acp in the future, buy the larger cal and be able to use it on more pistols. Won't be quite as quiet on a 9mm but more useable.

They sell very well for us in Colorado.

ThePBM · September 14, 2008, 12:01 AM

thank you for sharing about YHM. those look like some good suppressors.
one question though- do you have any idea if you can take them apart for cleaning or what the recommended cleaning protocol for their suppressors are?

freakshow10mm · September 14, 2008, 09:38 AM

Hard to tell from their pics. They don't mention any takedown functions on their site. Shoot them an email and ask.

mydixiwrecked00 · October 5, 2008, 10:17 AM

im very interested but uneducated on this topic. i want to get a silencer for one of my 5.56 bullpups but do plan on buying something in 7.62 eventually.... would buying it for the larger cal work in this instance also or is that to large of a gap between rounds rendering the idea not effective?

freakshow10mm · October 5, 2008, 11:41 AM

Not as effective. Just get two suppressors.

David Hineline · October 5, 2008, 02:17 PM

I run a 30cal silencer on my M16s because I am particularly sensative to smoke in the face as a left handed shooter. The overbore and volume on the 30 cal silencer helps reduce this.

The 30cal is quite effective as the larger size and internal volume increase makes up for the looser bore.

The trade off is size and weight, but for me it's worth it because I shoot my gear but do not hump it around.

September 5, 2008, 09:07 PM	#1
ThePBM Member Join Date: August 11, 2008 Posts: 58	One suppressor, multiple firearms? I just read somewhere that mentioned someone having a suppressor that they moved onto different firearms. My question is- if I went through the hoops and got a suppressor, are all the fees and stamp and such only connected to the suppressor? Will they not know or care what guns I am putting it on? Do they only care about my ownership of the suppressor? That totally makes a suppressor a lot more feasible if I won't have to jump through the hoops PER firearm that I have and want to suppress. It never occurred to me that I might only have to get 1 suppressor and just thread my firearms. Suppressing just one gun for that cost isn't worth it to me, but if it can be used on other guns without legal problems then definitely worth it. This is all taking into account that these multiple firearms are the same caliber and such. __________________ Religion-- Giving hope to a world torn apart by religion.

September 5, 2008, 09:46 PM	#3
ThePBM Member Join Date: August 11, 2008 Posts: 58	fan freakin tastic now to do some research on awesome 9mm suppressors btw- does nobody call them silencers anymore? __________________ Religion-- Giving hope to a world torn apart by religion.

September 6, 2008, 10:15 AM	#6
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	I use the term can and suppressor. Online, I normally use the work "can" since it is easier to type. If you are interested in 9mm suppressors, I'm waiting for the AAC Enigma to be released. It is like the Trident-9, another excellent design, except you will be able to take it apart for cleaning, important if you shoot cast bullets. It will be an extremely versatile design. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

September 6, 2008, 11:33 AM	#7
ThePBM Member Join Date: August 11, 2008 Posts: 58	Sounds awesome. I will eventually be casting my own bullets, so I'll keep an eye out on that can. Thank you for sharing. __________________ Religion-- Giving hope to a world torn apart by religion.

September 9, 2008, 12:59 AM	#10
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	Industry profesionals Industry profesionals use the term equally, so does the leagle beagles, the term silencer only seems to effect wanna be operators in a negative way.

September 5, 2008, 09:12 PM	#2
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	The suppressor is registered and has a serial number. It is the controlled item. ATF doesn't care what gun you put it on. If it fits your buddy's gun, you can put it on his gun and shoot it.

September 6, 2008, 10:00 AM	#5
aroundlsu Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 156	Silencer, suppressor, muffler, can, snuffer... anyone know any others?

September 6, 2008, 11:45 AM	#8
RAnb Junior member Join Date: July 20, 2008 Location: WA, USA Posts: 447	Silencer is what Maxim called them when he started to market them over 100 years ago. In the UK some people use the words silencer and muffler to denote their use on engines. Silencer is a legal term in the USA, I do not think the ATF will approve a form 1 or 4 if a person writes in any other word than silencer. Occasionally someone will tell me that I do not know about silencers because I do not call them suppressors. They are a comical combination of ignorance and arrogance. Ranb

September 6, 2008, 11:46 AM	#9
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	I use the term suppressor as that is what it does. Many people use silencer and that to me is like calling a magazine a clip. In England, they are known as moderators.

September 9, 2008, 01:29 AM	#11
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	Cute. So I'm a wannabe operator because I prefer the term "suppressor"?

September 9, 2008, 12:53 PM	#12
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Who are you talking with... The term firearm silencer is unambiguous. To many, especially the anti-gun crowd, it conjures up images of sinister deeds. Within the gun community, *suppressor* is synonymous with silencer. Yet, to the general public it's ambiguous, might not a supressor be a magazine plug, recoil reducer or flash hider?

September 9, 2008, 12:54 PM	#13
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	If you are offended at all by an insinuation that you might be a wanna be operator then yes you are a wanna be operator. Let's ask the profesionals. They talk about silencers http://www.silencertalk.com They talk about silencers http://www.silencerresearch.com They make and sell silencers http://www.advanced-armament.com/silencers.asp Even paint ball operators understand the terms mean the same thing. http://forum.specialopspaintball.com...showtopic=1211 This company sells silencers http://www.impactguns.com/store/awc.html I am sure you or I can find just as many profesionals who use supressor, just as many use sound moderator, etc. as they are the same.

September 13, 2008, 11:11 AM	#14
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	If you can still hear something, it isn't silenced is it? The NFA law uses the term silencer. Suppressor is a more accurate term for what it does.

September 13, 2008, 12:41 PM	#15
LFOD1776 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 127	Hey Freakshow, it's not like magazine/clip at all. Those are two terms that refer to different things, and the uninitiated don't understand the difference. Silencer and suppressor are two terms that refer to the same thing... Now by all means, go ahead and prefer to use one term over the other! The inventor, Hiram Maxim, marketed his invention using the term "silencer". On that authority, I don't think that any criticism of people who choose to use that term is legitimate. It doesn't make you a "wanna be operator" when you insist that the term "silencer" is somehow inappropriate. But it does make you wrong. __________________ NRA Life Member

September 13, 2008, 02:45 PM	#16
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	I never said it was inappropriate, just not accurate.

September 13, 2008, 04:10 PM	#17
Michael A. Le Lack Member Join Date: March 31, 2008 Location: PA & FL Posts: 47	I would like to ad my 2 cents

September 13, 2008, 04:38 PM	#18
oldcspsarge Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2008 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 441	http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/ Yankee Hill Machine makes very high quality supressors. They have a lifetime warranty, good sound reduction and great support. If you are thinking of 40S&W or 45acp in the future, buy the larger cal and be able to use it on more pistols. Won't be quite as quiet on a 9mm but more useable. They sell very well for us in Colorado.

September 14, 2008, 12:01 AM	#19
ThePBM Member Join Date: August 11, 2008 Posts: 58	thank you for sharing about YHM. those look like some good suppressors. one question though- do you have any idea if you can take them apart for cleaning or what the recommended cleaning protocol for their suppressors are? __________________ Religion-- Giving hope to a world torn apart by religion.

September 14, 2008, 09:38 AM	#20
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	Hard to tell from their pics. They don't mention any takedown functions on their site. Shoot them an email and ask.

October 5, 2008, 10:17 AM	#21
mydixiwrecked00 Junior Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 13	im very interested but uneducated on this topic. i want to get a silencer for one of my 5.56 bullpups but do plan on buying something in 7.62 eventually.... would buying it for the larger cal work in this instance also or is that to large of a gap between rounds rendering the idea not effective?

October 5, 2008, 11:41 AM	#22
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	Not as effective. Just get two suppressors.

October 5, 2008, 02:17 PM	#23
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	30cal silencer I run a 30cal silencer on my M16s because I am particularly sensative to smoke in the face as a left handed shooter. The overbore and volume on the 30 cal silencer helps reduce this. The 30cal is quite effective as the larger size and internal volume increase makes up for the looser bore. The trade off is size and weight, but for me it's worth it because I shoot my gear but do not hump it around.