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July 20, 2020, 11:08 AM | #76 | ||||||
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My reply was to what CDW4ME posted... Quote:
But he apparantly didn't feel that he could place his hand on his concealed pistol inside his waistband. Quote:
Reaching under your shirt is not illegal. You could be reaching for a pocket knife to cut a cigar, you could be reaching for your car keys, you could be reaching for your cellphone, you could be adjusting your belt... Again, reaching under your shirt is NOT AGAINST THE LAW. Quote:
For example...All humans eventually die There are no exceptions that "prove the rule". Quote:
And yes, it's going to cost you to legally defend yourself. But if CDW4ME really did feel threatened enough to wish he had his hand on a pistol in his pocket, then I'm not going to second guess him. Quote:
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July 20, 2020, 11:17 AM | #77 | |
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Carrying "less" in a "good" area. Nope, no thanks.
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Brandishing is a crime. As I pointed out above, brandishing does not have to involve drawing a firearm. You specifically said putting your hand on the grip of a firearm. That is mentioned in a number of articles as a form of brandishing in some localities. If you want to play games in court where you argue that you weren’t in fact reaching for your firearm when you happened to reach under your shirt, more power to you. I know what the general expression is, I modified it for my purposes. Thank you though. I am concerned about anyone that feels the need to reach for a firearm because of a strange person moving in their general area. It’s a mentality that has come up in a number of threads in this sub forum and my thoughts haven’t changed. Note that this is not me saying being alert or situational awareness are bad. This is me talking about the physical act of putting a hand on a loaded firearm. There is a lot that goes into threat assessment. Outward visual appearance is just one part. What is the person’s demeanor, are their hands visible, these are other parts (and people will have others or different interpretations of what I’ve stated). There are a lot of shady people in the world. Reaching for a firearm because you can see one moving in your direction isn’t a sustainable solution in my mind and can lead to threat escalation that might not have happened otherwise. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by TunnelRat; July 20, 2020 at 11:27 AM. |
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July 20, 2020, 11:59 AM | #79 |
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Strangers are around me all the time. I go to stores, I go to restaurants, I put gas in my car. I don’t put my hand on my gun just because a stranger passes near me. Are people usually within a foot of me? No, and if they are I move or I ask them politely to move. This doesn’t involve me touching my gun.
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July 20, 2020, 12:25 PM | #81 |
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Carrying "less" in a "good" area. Nope, no thanks.
Being a stranger and being a threat aren’t necessarily the same thing. See the threat identification comments I made above. Until that person proves himself or herself an active threat then generally no I am not going for my firearm. I would point out that in the situation described by the OP the threat was seemingly well out of arm’s reach.
If you want to expound on this further I might suggest a new thread (while the OP brought up the scenario I think you’d get more input from others if they knew the topic of conversation from the title). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
July 20, 2020, 12:51 PM | #82 | |
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July 20, 2020, 01:15 PM | #83 |
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Same, no hard feelings here. You’re asking legitimate questions.
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July 20, 2020, 06:57 PM | #84 |
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I carry the most firepower that's practical to carry under the circumstances.
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April 16, 2022, 04:43 AM | #85 |
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i always thought that was silly.
"i wont bring my gun because its a good area" as if because it isnt common that means it wont happen.
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