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Old June 6, 2007, 02:19 PM   #451
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wowza

been out of things for a few days with a horrible sinus infection. Darn pollution. Anways I tried accessing THR and it's down! So I came to my backup and see most the oddballs from THR here anyways.

Apparently I've missed A LOT! PaDanby is talking about a Blackburn taking down the system. 30 Cal apparently wants attack poodles but I think the excess fur would cause attack problems... and strangely enough Pax is getting sexually harrassed by HSO and I'm sensing some very edipal vibes....

so um... I'm thinking about going back into hiding because this new world is surely strange...
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:24 PM   #452
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hrgrisso, it is just withdrawal symptoms for the hardcore THRers and the APSers. It will get better with time.
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:30 PM   #453
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A good chunk started here and only left under protest.
I don't suppose you'd care to elaborate would you?
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:31 PM   #454
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One more refugee checking into the camp... nice place here though. Great, just what I needed one more gun forum to go and waste time at work.
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:33 PM   #455
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Just a post to track this evolving event.

I have an attack Bichon if she's needed!
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:35 PM   #456
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The FBI rarely acts nor do they care about internet crime for the most part with the exception of kiddie porn unless your a multi million dollar company.
Umm, as someone who works with the FBI on a frequent basis, in the realm of computer security, I have to say you are mis-informed.

There is a $5000 baseline, typically on commercial systems, but the FBI will take whatever cases they can, based on workload, and other circumstances. It doesn't have to be child pornography, nor does the entity have to be a "multi million dollar company".
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:35 PM   #457
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I don't suppose you'd care to elaborate would you?
The way that I understand it is (as this happened long before I joined):

There once was a TFL that was widely beloved among its members.
Something happened and TFL was shut down.
Oleg created THR.
THR became widely beloved among its members.
TFL re-establishes a presence.
THR gets jacked and becomes unstable.
THR members miss home, but embrace TFL.

I may not have all the facts and/or sequence correct. But this is what I have gathered.
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:39 PM   #458
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A good chunk started here and only left under protest.

I don't suppose you'd care to elaborate would you?
Speaking for myself only, TFL was THE firearms forum several years back until Rich had to shut it down temporarily. I missed TFL very much but understood what Rich had to do. Then Oleg and company then formed THR, which many of us flocked to during the hiatus of TFL. I think this is what the poster meant by "left under protest."
If it isn't, it's what I mean.


Now I can remember all that, but I can't seem to remember the original name I posted under!
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Old June 6, 2007, 02:42 PM   #459
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A good chunk started here and only left under protest.
I don't suppose you'd care to elaborate would you?
Sounds kinda sinister, put that way, but there's nothing nefarious going on.

TFL existed long before THR came into being.

TFL shut down for a period of time, although the archives remained intact. It was a very active, very popular forum at that time. Rich Lucibella, who owns TFL, challenged the membership to go forth and spread the meme of responsible firearms ownership and civilized discussion. A lot of people were sad to see TFL go (I was among them, as TFL was my first firearms board ... *sob*).

Oleg founded THR on the very eve of TFL shutting down. Many of the moderators from the "old" TFL were among the founders and plankowners of THR, and much of the "old" TFL's membership migrated over to THR when TFL went dark.

Fast forward a few years. THR became a successful forum in its own right, and Rich Lucibella decided to re-open TFL. *Cheers!!!*

Now the "new" TFL has been active for a couple of years, with a database going back to before the original shut-down. And many of us old-timers are happy members at both sites ... but we would never have left TFL, or found THR, if the shut-down hadn't happened.

And that's the story in a nutshell.

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Old June 6, 2007, 03:01 PM   #460
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...and to add to Pax's story, sadly there are members now on both boards that are unaware that the other board exists.

Actually, under the present circumstances, it has been extremely nice to have a sibling board to go to for information and to get the daily fix which seems to have invaded my persona.
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Old June 6, 2007, 03:28 PM   #461
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If THR will be back up Sunday-that means I planned my vacation well!!!

Of course all that darn global warming has caused it to snow in the sierra nevada mtns. My car has traction control so I'll thwart the effects of carbon emissions any way
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Old June 6, 2007, 03:40 PM   #462
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And just when I got to be a Senior Member on THR, now I am mere Newbie again on this list!

The Doc is out now.
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Old June 6, 2007, 03:44 PM   #463
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ARRGH!, just when you get used to it being back up it goes down again. It was up at 1am eastern time this morning and its 4:45pm and its down again. This sucks. Hey, atleast TFL is'nt down, if it was I'd have to find something else to do from the time I get home from work until bedtime instead of reading about guns and looking at gunporn.
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Old June 6, 2007, 04:00 PM   #464
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It may snow here in the Colorado Rockies tonight. No APS Global Warming thread to post to. I think that all those Carbon Credits I printed off on my printer are working way too well. If it never gets to summer and if the trees all die due to lack of CO2, I guess it will be my fault for printing a few huge Carbon Credits to make sure I can be carbon neutral for the next 20 years. I think I created a huge carbon-free bubble. I need to quickly figure out how we can blame all this on fistful.

Thought I would add the weather forcast for tonight from Wunderground.com:

"Tonight
Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of rain showers and snow showers. Strong winds. Lows 36 to 42. West winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to around 50 mph increasing to 35 to 50 mph with gusts to around 90 mph after midnight."
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Old June 6, 2007, 04:12 PM   #465
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Short answer...

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What is APS?
APS is a half-way house for those who got kicked off of THR, and a forum to continue the non-gun discussions in what started as the Round Table sub-forum on THR.

THR is a continuation itself of TFL, which took a hiatus for a while when things got a bit over the top in decorum and downright nastiness. Since THR went online, TFL came back, and many of us have pretty much migrated back to it.

I came home from work to find all sorts of whining about not having THR and APS online. My goodness! One would think it's the end of the world.

Myself, I've got some estate planning to do, the dogs need walking, the lawn needs cutting, and my garden needs tending. The internet can wait.
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Old June 6, 2007, 04:32 PM   #466
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Myself, I've got some estate planning to do, the dogs need walking, the lawn needs cutting, and my garden needs tending. The internet can wait.
BLASPHEMER!!! You shall surely burn for such an utterance. Don't you know that resistance is futile!

THR/APS being offline bites, but the real kicker is the cost this crud is to the folks who run the sites, and the aggravation they must endure while some nit-wit gets his joy attacking the server.
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Old June 6, 2007, 04:47 PM   #467
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Nice of TFL to be here. Heck, I'm enjoying this, same people, same topics,, and here I don't have to keep an eye on the kiddie pool.
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Old June 6, 2007, 04:56 PM   #468
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Mike, it should, they were on the same server IIRC.


I only left TFL because it shut down for awhile, but I come here every so often since it came back.
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Old June 6, 2007, 05:01 PM   #469
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It's nice to come here and get a fix while THR is down.

Lots of nice folks here to put up with us too.
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Old June 6, 2007, 05:32 PM   #470
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I wouldn't mind paying $20 for a "fistfull did it" t-shirt, keeps the membership free, basically a virtual bake sale.

Hah! Yeah, but cool things like that never happen to me. (And there's one l in fistful.)
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Old June 6, 2007, 05:49 PM   #471
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I visit TFL and THR at least once a day, but more often than not twice a day.

What I could never understand is why, when TFL came back online, people didn't flock to come back.

One sad thing about both forums is that certain people rarely post anymore. I'm thinking of Tamara and LawDog, but there are others whose posts were a joy to read as well.
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Old June 6, 2007, 06:01 PM   #472
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He's busy being 911 operator and county dispatch.
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Old June 6, 2007, 06:12 PM   #473
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well...

...dang...again
Hope this is a great week for the pondscum causing all this...
Good to see everyone here though...sorta' like ole' times...and new times...
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Old June 6, 2007, 06:16 PM   #474
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You mean like "best of times" "worst of times"?
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Old June 6, 2007, 06:35 PM   #475
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*Stumbles in, shaking from THR withdrawals*

I'm sick of getting so much done with the site being down! Is there room for one more here?
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