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Old November 7, 2008, 08:25 PM   #1
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CVA Bobcat - misc. questions

Hello,

I'm considering getting a .50 CVA Bobcat from a pawnshop. I started another thread that asks how to not get a lemon. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=318696

In this thread I was hoping to clear up some of the questions I have about muzzleloading in general. Any input would be appreciated as I am brand new to blackpowder. I'll be using it for Blacktail in WA state and possibly in the future I'll try for Elk.

1) What kind of ammo can you use with a 1:48 twist barrel? ball, maxiball, saboted?
2) How many grains is max for this gun? Can it be used for elk? Is it possible to be effective up to 100 yards? (I would of course fiddle with the right amount of powder, grains, etc. to find an accurate loading). Scopes are illegal for hunting BP in WA. Jacketed bullets are illegal for hunting too. Polymer tips are okay.
3) Any tips on how to not get the primer and/or powder wet? In Washington State the primers have to be exposed to the elements.
4) Any danger that it has one of the barrels that were recalled by CVA?

Thanks for all your help
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Old November 7, 2008, 08:36 PM   #2
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1) Yes, 1:48 is "suppose" to accomodate all.
2) Kind of depends on you propellant but I'd stay under 100 grains of FFG or FFFG.
3) That is trickier but I would get some speed loaders and set them up. I carry six loaded and enough material to make up six more and that is just for each day trip. My bag is also water proof. Might add that CVA also make red plastic weather sheilds for the primers as well as a comdom for the muzzle. Like I said, it can get tricky. Other folks here should give you additional options and pointers.
4) Contact CVA and then you should be able to rest a bit easier. While you are at it, ask for a manual and they should provide you with one at no cost.



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Old November 7, 2008, 09:20 PM   #3
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I have a CVA Bobcat that I had swapped out the plastic stock for a nice wooden one & it is a fine shooter.
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1) What kind of ammo can you use with a 1:48 twist barrel? ball, maxiball, saboted?
2) How many grains is max for this gun? Can it be used for elk? Is it possible to be effective up to 100 yards? (I would of course fiddle with the right amount of powder, grains, etc. to find an accurate loading). Scopes are illegal for hunting BP in WA. Jacketed bullets are illegal for hunting too. Polymer tips are okay.
3) Any tips on how to not get the primer and/or powder wet? In Washington State the primers have to be exposed to the elements.
4) Any danger that it has one of the barrels that were recalled by CVA?
(1) Mine likes 177gr. .490 .015 Patched Round Ball with 80gr. FFFG Goex & it does quite well with a 320gr. Cast Lee REAL Bullet & 90gr. FFFG Goex out to 100 yards.

(2) If I remember right the max was 100gr. FFG or FFFG Black Powder but if you use 777 I would make my max load to be 80gr. to be on the safe side & yes this rifle would be plenty for Elk within resonable distances using the heavier bullets ofcorse.

(3) Traditions & a few others makes a kit that has a rubber seal to go around the Percussion Cap & a small balloon to go over the muzzle, but you can also use Bees wax kneeded & formed around the cap & a finger off of a rubber glove & a rubber band can serve the same purpose of keeping moisture out of the muzzle.

(4) I would contact CVA to be sure but I'm almost positive that the recall is only referring to one of their inline muzzle loaders not the traditional ones.
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