New to semi autos. Taurus Spectrum - Page 2

Big Shrek · February 23, 2018, 08:48 PM

Yep, fixed it, thanks

I gotta keep up on the recalls, Ruger had 'em on the LCP, LCR9's, and the Mark IV's recently...

Mosin44az · February 23, 2018, 09:12 PM

CoffeeShooter, I am not aware of any difference in reliability among the various LCPs.

I have a 2009 original LCP, and a more recent Custom. Both have been reliable.

Ruger re-did the original a couple of years ago by improving the trigger and sights—adding sights really, since the Gen 1 original really didn’t have any. If you can see sight “bumps” in a side view, and think the trigger pull is OK, that’s what you are looking at, and that’s the LCP generally for sale under 200 or thereabouts. I call that the Gen 2, but your source may consider it a Gen 1 because it is not like the even newer LCP II, which has a much lighter trigger, a thumb safety ( I think) and which automatically locks back on an empty magazine. I personally would go with the cheaper Gen 2 rather than the LCP II, because I think its Longer, slightly heavier trigger is better for pocket carry.

kmw1954 · February 23, 2018, 09:31 PM

I would suggest you got here to see what you can find out about the Spectrum. This site also has no connection to Taurus USA.

http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/spectrum/

jsust · February 23, 2018, 10:40 PM

I have my eyes set on the spectrum as well. It felt really good in my hand and thats a big deal to me. Although i have several pocket 380s but it would be nice to add it to my collection. My choice of carry is actually the taurus tcp surprisingly. The tcp is super light, great trigger and feels good in my hand. It seems that multiple people on this thread love the pico but to me its the worst 380 I own. I want to love it but I cant hit the broad side of a barn with it! Its so thin which is nice but it feels terrible in my hand. For what its worth I am in love with the remington rm380. Its been reliable for me, feels good in my hand and its pleasent to shoot. If it wasnt so damn heavy it would be on my side right now.

GarandTd · February 24, 2018, 07:47 AM

I will 2nd the RM380. I can shoot it well. I like the dao trigger, it's long, but very smooth. It has been completely reliable. It is of all metal construction, so it is heavier than it's polymer competition. I have been carrying it aiwb where it is pretty much invisible. I have a pocket holster on the way, so I can give that a try. Be sure to look into that one, at least, before you buy.

The Ruger lcp's would be right there in your budget, but I see many comments about how they are unpleasant to shoot.

Carl the Floor Walker · February 24, 2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jsust

I have my eyes set on the spectrum as well. It felt really good in my hand and thats a big deal to me. Although i have several pocket 380s but it would be nice to add it to my collection. My choice of carry is actually the taurus tcp surprisingly. The tcp is super light, great trigger and feels good in my hand. It seems that multiple people on this thread love the pico but to me its the worst 380 I own. I want to love it but I cant hit the broad side of a barn with it! Its so thin which is nice but it feels terrible in my hand. For what its worth I am in love with the remington rm380. Its been reliable for me, feels good in my hand and its pleasent to shoot. If it wasnt so damn heavy it would be on my side right now.

Lol, I am a Pico nut. Just love this little pistol and more accurate with it than any of the 4 LCP's I have owned. It is very mild to shoot. Actually, can be extremely accurate. However, I would not recommend this gun to a novice shooter or someone that does not want to make a commitment to getting to know the gun and characteristics. Once you do, you will find it really is a gem.
Just had mine out this morning. And as usual ran like a top and nailing great groups with fast point and shoot training.
This was after, I had just put about 200 rounds through my New Nano. Beretta makes some great firearms.

PS I did handle the RM380 and actually liked it. Never shot it, but the OEM trigger seemed very nice. I have a few friends that have them and they like them, but that is about all I can tell you.
I like what the Stectrum is offering. Hey, they stole the great easy takedown from the Pico. At least they got something right, right out of the box. Points to them for that one.

moosemike · February 25, 2018, 08:02 AM

Taurus has seemingly righted the ship in recent years. I just bought a new Taurus and I'm considering another one two weeks from now. They're building some good stuff.

CoffeeShooter · February 26, 2018, 11:03 AM

Yeah, I do hear Taurus has really stepped up their quality control. Hence why Im so intereted in the spectrum as a budget pistol until I can get more hours at work. I hear a lot of good things about makarovs as well but hear the ammo can be hard to find. I already own a Nagant revolver but the heavy trigger pull, hard to pocket size and scarcity of ammo makes it something I rarely shoot or would consider once I get carry license.

dgludwig · February 26, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Here's another wrinkle: the Ruger LCP is just a copy of the Kel-Tec P3AT.

I'm not sure what you mean by "another wrinkle". The Kel-Tec pistol design is far from original or unique. Are you referring to the size and configuration (looks) of the pistol?

CoffeeShooter · February 26, 2018, 11:47 AM

Speaking of Keltec they had a 9mm I may consider at academy but hear Keltec getting negative rep similar to Taurus.

Mosin44az · February 26, 2018, 10:55 PM

You are right that Kel tec has an iffy rep also. Taurus, Kel-tec and Kahr are on my No Buy list.

kymasabe · February 27, 2018, 05:04 PM

I'll NEVER buy another Taurus. My daughters TCP didn't even last thru it's first range session, we shipped back to Taurus and it's been 8 weeks and they haven't touched it yet. I've been trying to call but they say "busy, call back later". I was just on hold for just over an hour when i got the "call back later" message. The product is junk and the customer service is horrible.

kymasabe · February 27, 2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl the Floor Walker

PS I did handle the RM380 and actually liked it. Never shot it, but the OEM trigger seemed very nice. I have a few friends that have them and they like them, but that is about all I can tell you.

I own an RM380, it's worked 100% from the day I took it out of the box, eats EVERYTHING I feed it, never had a single failure with it.
I think it's an overlooked under rated little gun. Mines awesome.

Capt Rick Hiott · February 27, 2018, 05:41 PM

I would NEVER buy a Taurus semi-auto for self-defense! Never!!

Cosmodragoon · February 28, 2018, 12:59 AM

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... My current revolver is nice but not exactly comfortable to carry around unless its holstered. Holsters are nice but something to just stash in pocket or jacket when out for a walk in the evening is what Im after

I just finished responding to your other thread. I'll add here that I pocket carry in warmer weather. It's extremely convenient. However, there are some important considerations. Is there anything else in that pocket? Is the trigger area protected? A holster is more than "nice" in this respect and a decent pocket holster can be had for cheap. It absolutely lends itself to the intended purpose here.

(Speaking of warm weather, pocket holsters may offer at least some degree of protection for the gun in what can become an unfriendly micro-environment.)

OhioGuy · February 28, 2018, 06:06 AM

My #1 question to someone considering any .380 pocket gun would be "Does it REALLY need to be that small? I had an S&W Bodyguard for a while, and in addition to being unpleasant to shoot and expensive to feed (.380 costs a good deal more than 9mm) I was never confident drawing it from concealment. Thankfully unloaded, I fumbled several times when I trained to retrieve it from under more than a layer of clothing.

I sold it off and got a 9mm Walther PPS M2. In a deep concealment holster it will disappear, in an IWB holster it still pretty much disappears. And it's WAY more shootable.

OhioGuy · February 28, 2018, 03:24 PM

And another question...is the Spectrum actually real now? Like...can I go and buy one? I've seen nothing about it since the flashy introduction a whole year ago!!!

CoffeeShooter · February 28, 2018, 04:15 PM

Yes the spectrum is real. 238 after tax at academy.

GarandTd · February 28, 2018, 04:16 PM

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Is the spectrum actually real now

My LGS has several in their display case.

JMag1 · February 28, 2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dgludwig

I'm not sure what you mean by "another wrinkle". The Kel-Tec pistol design is far from original or unique. Are you referring to the size and configuration (looks) of the pistol?

Actually, the Kel-Tec locked breach design in such as small pistol as the P-32 & a bit larger P-3AT was quite revolutionary, and paved the way for the plethora of small, non-blowback pistols we have today.

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dgludwig · March 1, 2018, 07:12 PM

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Actually, the Kel-Tec locked breach design in such as small pistol as the P-32 & a bit larger P-3AT was quite revolutionary,

The size might be revolutionary (if how big or small something is can ever be called "revolutionary" nor do I see how you can "copy" size, let alone patent it) but the locked breech design was copied by both Kel-Tec and Ruger and most every other manufacturer making pistols today. Not seeing any Ruger "wrinkle".

GunFickle · March 1, 2018, 11:00 PM

I have the Taurus TCP. When I first started shooting it the last round slide holdback would activate in the middle of the mag. I should have just sent it back but I ended up filing off the (last round holdback) tab. Now it works fine other than not holding back after the last round. Taurus quality control has a reputation of being hit or miss. I also have a Ruger LCP II which I just purchased. It has a much nicer trigger and the last round hold back works just fine. The LCP II can be had for around $250 at Cabala's. I got mine from a local dealer for $239.00 Now, the Taurus you are considering is a whole different gun from the TCP and it looks pretty cool as well. I have not read of any issues with Taurus Spectrum.

moosemike · March 2, 2018, 06:16 AM

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My #1 question to someone considering any .380 pocket gun would be "Does it REALLY need to be that small?

Yes. I don't always want to wear a holster

GunFickle · March 2, 2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by moosemike

Yes. I don't always want to wear a holster

Me too, when it comes to size. Guns the size of an LCP are the only thing I'm comfortable with in my pocket with a pocket holster.

Cosmodragoon · March 3, 2018, 12:31 AM

^ It depends on the pants but when you can accommodate a pocket-holstered LCR, it opens up a ton of options. With a good trigger and revolver reliability, it can be had in .38 special, 9mm, .357 magnum, or .327 Fed Mag. It's a beautiful thing when your carry gun is also a go-to plinking gun.

February 23, 2018, 08:48 PM	#26
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 1,358	Yep, fixed it, thanks I gotta keep up on the recalls, Ruger had 'em on the LCP, LCR9's, and the Mark IV's recently... __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

February 24, 2018, 07:47 AM	#30
GarandTd Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2016 Location: Rural PA Posts: 1,639	I will 2nd the RM380. I can shoot it well. I like the dao trigger, it's long, but very smooth. It has been completely reliable. It is of all metal construction, so it is heavier than it's polymer competition. I have been carrying it aiwb where it is pretty much invisible. I have a pocket holster on the way, so I can give that a try. Be sure to look into that one, at least, before you buy. The Ruger lcp's would be right there in your budget, but I see many comments about how they are unpleasant to shoot. __________________ 22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp

February 25, 2018, 08:02 AM	#32
moosemike Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2009 Location: Lebanon PA Posts: 535	Taurus has seemingly righted the ship in recent years. I just bought a new Taurus and I'm considering another one two weeks from now. They're building some good stuff. __________________ et cognoscetis veritatem et veritas liberabit vos

February 27, 2018, 05:04 PM	#37
kymasabe Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,747	I'll NEVER buy another Taurus. My daughters TCP didn't even last thru it's first range session, we shipped back to Taurus and it's been 8 weeks and they haven't touched it yet. I've been trying to call but they say "busy, call back later". I was just on hold for just over an hour when i got the "call back later" message. The product is junk and the customer service is horrible. __________________ God's creatures big and small, eat them one, eat them all.

February 27, 2018, 05:41 PM	#39
Capt Rick Hiott Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 376	I would NEVER buy a Taurus semi-auto for self-defense! Never!! __________________ Capt Rick Hiott Charleston,SC

February 23, 2018, 09:12 PM	#27
Mosin44az Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2006 Posts: 2,585	CoffeeShooter, I am not aware of any difference in reliability among the various LCPs. I have a 2009 original LCP, and a more recent Custom. Both have been reliable. Ruger re-did the original a couple of years ago by improving the trigger and sights—adding sights really, since the Gen 1 original really didn’t have any. If you can see sight “bumps” in a side view, and think the trigger pull is OK, that’s what you are looking at, and that’s the LCP generally for sale under 200 or thereabouts. I call that the Gen 2, but your source may consider it a Gen 1 because it is not like the even newer LCP II, which has a much lighter trigger, a thumb safety ( I think) and which automatically locks back on an empty magazine. I personally would go with the cheaper Gen 2 rather than the LCP II, because I think its Longer, slightly heavier trigger is better for pocket carry.

February 23, 2018, 09:31 PM	#28
kmw1954 Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2016 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 1,524	I would suggest you got here to see what you can find out about the Spectrum. This site also has no connection to Taurus USA. http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/spectrum/

February 23, 2018, 10:40 PM	#29
jsust Member Join Date: March 14, 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 52	I have my eyes set on the spectrum as well. It felt really good in my hand and thats a big deal to me. Although i have several pocket 380s but it would be nice to add it to my collection. My choice of carry is actually the taurus tcp surprisingly. The tcp is super light, great trigger and feels good in my hand. It seems that multiple people on this thread love the pico but to me its the worst 380 I own. I want to love it but I cant hit the broad side of a barn with it! Its so thin which is nice but it feels terrible in my hand. For what its worth I am in love with the remington rm380. Its been reliable for me, feels good in my hand and its pleasent to shoot. If it wasnt so damn heavy it would be on my side right now.

February 26, 2018, 11:03 AM	#33
CoffeeShooter Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2018 Posts: 101	Yeah, I do hear Taurus has really stepped up their quality control. Hence why Im so intereted in the spectrum as a budget pistol until I can get more hours at work. I hear a lot of good things about makarovs as well but hear the ammo can be hard to find. I already own a Nagant revolver but the heavy trigger pull, hard to pocket size and scarcity of ammo makes it something I rarely shoot or would consider once I get carry license.

February 26, 2018, 11:47 AM	#35
CoffeeShooter Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2018 Posts: 101	Speaking of Keltec they had a 9mm I may consider at academy but hear Keltec getting negative rep similar to Taurus.

February 26, 2018, 10:55 PM	#36
Mosin44az Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2006 Posts: 2,585	You are right that Kel tec has an iffy rep also. Taurus, Kel-tec and Kahr are on my No Buy list.

February 28, 2018, 06:06 AM	#41
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	My #1 question to someone considering any .380 pocket gun would be "Does it REALLY need to be that small? I had an S&W Bodyguard for a while, and in addition to being unpleasant to shoot and expensive to feed (.380 costs a good deal more than 9mm) I was never confident drawing it from concealment. Thankfully unloaded, I fumbled several times when I trained to retrieve it from under more than a layer of clothing. I sold it off and got a 9mm Walther PPS M2. In a deep concealment holster it will disappear, in an IWB holster it still pretty much disappears. And it's WAY more shootable.

February 28, 2018, 03:24 PM	#42
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	And another question...is the Spectrum actually real now? Like...can I go and buy one? I've seen nothing about it since the flashy introduction a whole year ago!!!

February 28, 2018, 04:15 PM	#43
CoffeeShooter Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2018 Posts: 101	Yes the spectrum is real. 238 after tax at academy.

March 1, 2018, 11:00 PM	#47
GunFickle Member Join Date: March 1, 2018 Location: Barrackville WV Posts: 33	I have the Taurus TCP. When I first started shooting it the last round slide holdback would activate in the middle of the mag. I should have just sent it back but I ended up filing off the (last round holdback) tab. Now it works fine other than not holding back after the last round. Taurus quality control has a reputation of being hit or miss. I also have a Ruger LCP II which I just purchased. It has a much nicer trigger and the last round hold back works just fine. The LCP II can be had for around $250 at Cabala's. I got mine from a local dealer for $239.00 Now, the Taurus you are considering is a whole different gun from the TCP and it looks pretty cool as well. I have not read of any issues with Taurus Spectrum.

March 3, 2018, 12:31 AM	#50
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,869	^ It depends on the pants but when you can accommodate a pocket-holstered LCR, it opens up a ton of options. With a good trigger and revolver reliability, it can be had in .38 special, 9mm, .357 magnum, or .327 Fed Mag. It's a beautiful thing when your carry gun is also a go-to plinking gun.