If uncomfortable with Strikers, which CCW?

chemcal · October 22, 2019, 09:58 AM

For those who don't like to carry strikers, what do you carry?

tipoc · October 22, 2019, 10:05 AM

Maybe you could be a bit more precise. What type carry are you speaking of? Service size pistol, compact or subcompact? There are handguns in various sizes for different jobs. More info might narrow it down some.

tipoc

GE-Minigun · October 22, 2019, 10:19 AM

I have nothing against striker fired pistols other than I do not care for the triggers, nor am I uncomfortable carrying one, although I really like the Sig triggers. With that said, I’m a 1911 guy, carried Colt defenders up to Government model on an off for the last 30 years…current is a Sig Nightmare in 357Sig Commander length. Very accurate and handles great.

**Aguila Blanca** · October 22, 2019, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chemcal

For those who don't like to carry strikers, what do you carry?

1911

Typically, either a Colt Officers ACP or a Para-Ordnance Slim Hawg.

pete2 · October 22, 2019, 10:53 AM

Nothing to do with striker fired or not, I carry a 642 revolver because I can draw from a pocket and it's light weight.

chemcal · October 22, 2019, 11:08 AM

I like a barrel of <4" and no more than 5" high.

GarandTd · October 22, 2019, 11:13 AM

If you don't like strikers, the alternative is hammer fired. My CCW is a DA only hammer fired Remington RM380. I have nothing against striker fired handguns, but coincidentally, I have none. All of my handguns are hammer fired.

Cyanide971 · October 22, 2019, 11:58 AM

Of the several handguns that I shuffle through my carry rotation, ALL of them share the similar trait of being, for ease of explanation, Glock 19-sized or smaller, regardless of striker fire or hammer fire. Currently go between the following, just depends on my mood per given day lol:

CZ 100
DAO CZ P-07 Duty
DAO Beretta PX4 Compact
Gen 5 Glock 26
Sig P365
Bersa Thunder 380 Plus
Colt Night Cobra
Charter Arms On-Duty

DMK · October 22, 2019, 12:05 PM

Before I got any striker guns, I carried a Colt CCO 1911 and then a CZ 75 PCR IWB. I also have pocket carried a S&W 642 and now a S&W 649.

I first dipped my toes in the striker world with a Springfield XDs which has a grip safety. I like that for added reassurance while holstering.

I'm comfortable with striker guns now for IWB strong side carry and have a bunch, but for appendix carry, I'm only using my XDs and just bought a CZ P07 this week.

TheGunGeek · October 22, 2019, 12:21 PM

All my CCWs are DA/SA actions. You get the safety of the double action and the precision of a 1911. Hammer fired guns allow you to place your thumb on the hammer while holstering, making a ND impossible without breaking your thumb. Most days I carry a 92 compact, and I have a Langdon LTT version on preorder.

sigarms228 · October 22, 2019, 12:54 PM

I carry mostly striker fired but also hammer fired. For hammer fired I really like my HK P30SK and use both 10 and 13 round magazines in it for CCW. Mine is LEM but it also can be had in DA/SA with and without safety.

MTT TL · October 22, 2019, 01:10 PM

The wife doesn't like striker fired. She had carried at one time or another:

- CDP II Kimber compact 1911
- Kimber 380 Micro
- Walther PPK

All of these are good guns and the last two are light enough to be comfortable for anyone to carry all the time.

chemcal · October 22, 2019, 01:41 PM

I carry mostly striker fired but also hammer fired. For hammer fired I really like my HK P30SK and use both 10 and 13 round magazines in it for CCW. Mine is LEM but it also can be had in DA/SA with and without safety.

I would like to find a P30 lem V1 I could try. I have a P2000 V1.5(Todd Green); I like it; just shoot strikers more accurately--but I won't carry one.

TunnelRat · October 22, 2019, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chemcal

I like a barrel of <4" and no more than 5" high.

My guess is that should >, or the second half becomes redundant.

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chemcal · October 22, 2019, 03:02 PM

5" high = height of gun

TunnelRat · October 22, 2019, 03:05 PM

Ah there we go, thank you

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cslinger · October 22, 2019, 03:24 PM

I have carried striker fired pistols and have no issues with that. Like any tool they have their pro's and con's. I will say that when my daughter was born I gravitated back to DA/SA because of the longer, heavier first pull. In my world administrative gun handling far outweighs shooting and damn sure outweighs gun fighting. Besides I cut my teeth on DA/SA type stuff and I am very comfortable with DA revolvers so I actually do prefer this system. I also prefer riding a hammer home into the holster. (Doesn't make any of my reasons RIGHT just right for me.)

That said I wanted a DA/SA, hammer fired Glock 19/23..........I went with the HK P2000 in 9mm and .40 and couldn't be happier.

Now make sure your comfort level doesn't come from a lack of training/knowledge. If it does a different tool may only provide a false sense of security. Also be aware if not DA ONLY a DA or SA gun will come with their own training issues.

-Decocking on holstering
-Safety manipulation if a SA gun like a 1911
-More bits and bobbles and levers to be aware of
-Either learning two trigger pulls or learning to deal with a safety on presentation and on holstering EVERY TIME.
-Being EXTRA aware of you muzzle position on decock. You should always be in a safe direction but when decocking you want to make sure you are not pointing at something that could ricochet back at you if some kind of catastrophic failure happens on decock. (VERY UNLIKELY but stranger things).

Point is I like my DA/SA's for my own reasons and I am more comfortable carrying them then a striker fired gun, but carrying a striker fired gun is not any more or less inherently safe or unsafe, just different and requires a slightly different skill set and attention to detail.

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cslinger · October 22, 2019, 03:25 PM

I posted a thread a while back about "why I chose "my gun" if you will and asked others to weigh in on their personal choices. Lots of good replies, might be helpful for you as well.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...ight=why+chose

labnoti · October 22, 2019, 03:53 PM

Take a look at the Kahr -- try to make your evaluation based on one of the nicer ones and not the cheapest economy CW9 model. Look at a T9 or K9 if you can. I suggest the Kahr because they are more likely to meet your expectations for size and weight.

But you're not limited to the little lightweight compact guns that are popular for CCW these days. Other good suggestions are a 1911-type, a P229 or P226, a CZ75-type, or a medium or large revolver like a S&W 66, 686 or 627. Something like one of these are what I recommend. I can't imagine someone wishing they'd brought a lighter weight gun to a gun fight.

What I don't recommend is a compact snub-nosed revolver or a subcompact pistol. It stands to reason that if you carry a gun, you should want to be as proficient with it as possible in the event you need to use it for the purpose for which you're carrying it. It's advisable to obtain substantial training to acquire that proficiency. If you are training (in classes with a trainer) and practicing frequently, you will almost certainly progress faster and more easily with a full size gun rather than a dimunitive one. Don't switch to a lightweight gun or a tiny gun until you're able to demonstrate outstanding skill and ability with a regular fullsize gun first. The smaller, lighter gun is not going to make you better.

Carl the Floor Walker · October 22, 2019, 04:17 PM

DAO, striker fired DAO

mr bolo · October 22, 2019, 04:38 PM

I like the SIG SP2022 DA/SA

or HK USP9 DA/SA

Ben Dover · October 22, 2019, 06:00 PM

CZ P07

Hawg · October 22, 2019, 11:06 PM

I don't like striker fired or DA or polymer so make mine a 1911.

Carmady · October 23, 2019, 01:00 AM

My #1 for carry is the Kahr CM9, followed by the LCP for something smaller.

kymasabe · October 23, 2019, 05:22 AM

Doesn't Springfield now have a hammer fired XD?

October 22, 2019, 10:05 AM	#2
tipoc Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. Posts: 4,114	Maybe you could be a bit more precise. What type carry are you speaking of? Service size pistol, compact or subcompact? There are handguns in various sizes for different jobs. More info might narrow it down some. tipoc __________________ 1. All guns are always loaded. 2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. 3. Keep your finger off the trigger till you are ready to shoot. 4. Identify your target and know what is beyond it.

October 22, 2019, 11:13 AM	#7
GarandTd Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2016 Location: Rural PA Posts: 1,639	If you don't like strikers, the alternative is hammer fired. My CCW is a DA only hammer fired Remington RM380. I have nothing against striker fired handguns, but coincidentally, I have none. All of my handguns are hammer fired. __________________ 22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp

October 22, 2019, 11:58 AM	#8
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 725	If uncomfortable with Strikers, which CCW? Of the several handguns that I shuffle through my carry rotation, ALL of them share the similar trait of being, for ease of explanation, Glock 19-sized or smaller, regardless of striker fire or hammer fire. Currently go between the following, just depends on my mood per given day lol: CZ 100 DAO CZ P-07 Duty DAO Beretta PX4 Compact Gen 5 Glock 26 Sig P365 Bersa Thunder 380 Plus Colt Night Cobra Charter Arms On-Duty

October 22, 2019, 12:05 PM	#9
DMK Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: Over the hills and far, far away Posts: 3,206	Before I got any striker guns, I carried a Colt CCO 1911 and then a CZ 75 PCR IWB. I also have pocket carried a S&W 642 and now a S&W 649. I first dipped my toes in the striker world with a Springfield XDs which has a grip safety. I like that for added reassurance while holstering. I'm comfortable with striker guns now for IWB strong side carry and have a bunch, but for appendix carry, I'm only using my XDs and just bought a CZ P07 this week. __________________ - Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment - www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org Last edited by DMK; October 22, 2019 at 12:10 PM.

October 22, 2019, 12:54 PM	#11
sigarms228 Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2011 Posts: 1,768	I carry mostly striker fired but also hammer fired. For hammer fired I really like my HK P30SK and use both 10 and 13 round magazines in it for CCW. Mine is LEM but it also can be had in DA/SA with and without safety. __________________ “When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” ― Benjamin Franklin

October 22, 2019, 09:58 AM	#1
chemcal Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2014 Posts: 281	If uncomfortable with Strikers, which CCW? For those who don't like to carry strikers, what do you carry?

October 22, 2019, 10:19 AM	#3
GE-Minigun Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2008 Posts: 240	I have nothing against striker fired pistols other than I do not care for the triggers, nor am I uncomfortable carrying one, although I really like the Sig triggers. With that said, I’m a 1911 guy, carried Colt defenders up to Government model on an off for the last 30 years…current is a Sig Nightmare in 357Sig Commander length. Very accurate and handles great.

October 22, 2019, 10:53 AM	#5
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	Nothing to do with striker fired or not, I carry a 642 revolver because I can draw from a pocket and it's light weight.

October 22, 2019, 11:08 AM	#6
chemcal Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2014 Posts: 281	I like a barrel of <4" and no more than 5" high.

October 22, 2019, 12:21 PM	#10
TheGunGeek Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 182	All my CCWs are DA/SA actions. You get the safety of the double action and the precision of a 1911. Hammer fired guns allow you to place your thumb on the hammer while holstering, making a ND impossible without breaking your thumb. Most days I carry a 92 compact, and I have a Langdon LTT version on preorder.

October 22, 2019, 01:10 PM	#12
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	The wife doesn't like striker fired. She had carried at one time or another: - CDP II Kimber compact 1911 - Kimber 380 Micro - Walther PPK All of these are good guns and the last two are light enough to be comfortable for anyone to carry all the time. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

October 22, 2019, 01:41 PM	#13
chemcal Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2014 Posts: 281	I carry mostly striker fired but also hammer fired. For hammer fired I really like my HK P30SK and use both 10 and 13 round magazines in it for CCW. Mine is LEM but it also can be had in DA/SA with and without safety. I would like to find a P30 lem V1 I could try. I have a P2000 V1.5(Todd Green); I like it; just shoot strikers more accurately--but I won't carry one.

October 22, 2019, 03:02 PM	#15
chemcal Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2014 Posts: 281	5" high = height of gun

October 22, 2019, 03:05 PM	#16
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	Ah there we go, thank you Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

October 22, 2019, 03:24 PM	#17
cslinger Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,045	I have carried striker fired pistols and have no issues with that. Like any tool they have their pro's and con's. I will say that when my daughter was born I gravitated back to DA/SA because of the longer, heavier first pull. In my world administrative gun handling far outweighs shooting and damn sure outweighs gun fighting. Besides I cut my teeth on DA/SA type stuff and I am very comfortable with DA revolvers so I actually do prefer this system. I also prefer riding a hammer home into the holster. (Doesn't make any of my reasons RIGHT just right for me.) That said I wanted a DA/SA, hammer fired Glock 19/23..........I went with the HK P2000 in 9mm and .40 and couldn't be happier. Now make sure your comfort level doesn't come from a lack of training/knowledge. If it does a different tool may only provide a false sense of security. Also be aware if not DA ONLY a DA or SA gun will come with their own training issues. -Decocking on holstering -Safety manipulation if a SA gun like a 1911 -More bits and bobbles and levers to be aware of -Either learning two trigger pulls or learning to deal with a safety on presentation and on holstering EVERY TIME. -Being EXTRA aware of you muzzle position on decock. You should always be in a safe direction but when decocking you want to make sure you are not pointing at something that could ricochet back at you if some kind of catastrophic failure happens on decock. (VERY UNLIKELY but stranger things). Point is I like my DA/SA's for my own reasons and I am more comfortable carrying them then a striker fired gun, but carrying a striker fired gun is not any more or less inherently safe or unsafe, just different and requires a slightly different skill set and attention to detail. - __________________ "Is there anyway I can write my local gun store off on my taxes as dependents?"

October 22, 2019, 03:25 PM	#18
cslinger Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,045	I posted a thread a while back about "why I chose "my gun" if you will and asked others to weigh in on their personal choices. Lots of good replies, might be helpful for you as well. https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...ight=why+chose __________________ "Is there anyway I can write my local gun store off on my taxes as dependents?"

October 22, 2019, 03:53 PM	#19
labnoti Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2018 Posts: 252	Take a look at the Kahr -- try to make your evaluation based on one of the nicer ones and not the cheapest economy CW9 model. Look at a T9 or K9 if you can. I suggest the Kahr because they are more likely to meet your expectations for size and weight. But you're not limited to the little lightweight compact guns that are popular for CCW these days. Other good suggestions are a 1911-type, a P229 or P226, a CZ75-type, or a medium or large revolver like a S&W 66, 686 or 627. Something like one of these are what I recommend. I can't imagine someone wishing they'd brought a lighter weight gun to a gun fight. What I don't recommend is a compact snub-nosed revolver or a subcompact pistol. It stands to reason that if you carry a gun, you should want to be as proficient with it as possible in the event you need to use it for the purpose for which you're carrying it. It's advisable to obtain substantial training to acquire that proficiency. If you are training (in classes with a trainer) and practicing frequently, you will almost certainly progress faster and more easily with a full size gun rather than a dimunitive one. Don't switch to a lightweight gun or a tiny gun until you're able to demonstrate outstanding skill and ability with a regular fullsize gun first. The smaller, lighter gun is not going to make you better.

October 22, 2019, 04:17 PM	#20
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	DAO, striker fired DAO Last edited by Carl the Floor Walker; October 26, 2019 at 03:23 PM.

October 22, 2019, 04:38 PM	#21
mr bolo Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2012 Posts: 432	I like the SIG SP2022 DA/SA or HK USP9 DA/SA

October 22, 2019, 06:00 PM	#22
Ben Dover Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2013 Location: High up in the Rocky Moun Posts: 665	CZ P07 __________________ The soldier's pack is not so heavy a burden as the prisoner's chains. Dwight Eisenhower It is very important what a man stands for. But it is far more important what a man refuses to stand for.

October 22, 2019, 11:06 PM	#23
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	I don't like striker fired or DA or polymer so make mine a 1911.

October 23, 2019, 01:00 AM	#24
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	My #1 for carry is the Kahr CM9, followed by the LCP for something smaller.

October 23, 2019, 05:22 AM	#25
kymasabe Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,747	Doesn't Springfield now have a hammer fired XD? __________________ God's creatures big and small, eat them one, eat them all.