Issues with MTM 44 mag case...

flomofo · December 24, 2009, 03:07 AM

Basically I cant get my 44 mag reloads to fit in any of these new plastic mtm cases I bought.

The factory 300grn 44mag rounds I have left fit in slightly easier but still wont go all the way down.

So how hard should it be to stick these things in there. I did a pretty hard crimp on these and pushing as hard as I can it feels like I might actually set the bullet in deeper. I can't get all the rounds all the way down in these damn cases.

Any better options?

troy_mclure · December 24, 2009, 04:22 AM

buy the right sized cases?

CraigC · December 24, 2009, 10:39 AM

What do the boxes say on the top? You are loading the boxes bullet down, right?

GP100man · December 24, 2009, 10:03 PM

Send em to me & I`ll use em for 357 mag!!!

$1.00 apeice & shippin????

How much & where to send$$

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

flomofo · December 25, 2009, 12:03 PM

Bullet down to make it work, but I'm trying to find something more secure.

It seems like the best option is an old case of factory ammo, it doesn't look as nice but the styrofoam seems to work best.

I'm just paranoid about changing the COAL, especially on uncrimped cartridges.

Randy 1911 · December 25, 2009, 10:02 PM

I have to ask again, are you sure that you have the right boxes? I have 5 of the MTM 44 Mag cases. The rounds just drop in with no resistance. What does the writing on the top of the box say?

flomofo · December 26, 2009, 11:32 PM

It says 44 mag, and they do fit, I just meant finding a case where they don't have to sit upside down.

Mainly because on long bumpy trips I'm worried about the COAL being affected.

So either a case that has some sort of tention to hold them in place or if they are loose in the case like the mtm cases, maybe a piece of foam where the bullets would impact when moving around...

Crankylove · December 27, 2009, 12:46 AM

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Mainly because on long bumpy trips I'm worried about the COAL being affected.

If your cases are sized right, and you have good neck tension, the bumpy roads shouldn't have an effect on them. Sounds like you are already putting a pretty good crimp on them, so I really wouldnt worry about it. Next trip out, take your calipers with, and measure before and after, to see if it is actually changing the C.O.L, may put your mind at ease.

CraigC · December 27, 2009, 10:05 AM

Bumpy roads are not going to affect your overall length unless your expander plug is too large, which is a problem anyway. I've probably got at least 20 of these boxes and they work perfectly. If you're dead set of doing it your way, get those made for the .475. They will have enough room for the case heads but they'll be extremely wobbly.

jepp2 · December 27, 2009, 10:16 AM

And if the bumpy road did affect the length, it would be worse bullet up. Since that has the greatest density, having it on top would be the worst case scenario.

griz · December 27, 2009, 10:38 AM

Easy, carry the box upside down.

Dingoboyx · December 27, 2009, 10:47 AM

You beat me to it Griz

If you crimp the rounds properly, you shouldnt have any problem with the coal changing. If it were possible to move the projectile in the case further once the round is complete, you have done something wrong

If the projectile is loose, it (the projectile) could fall out of its case in your pocket

or the projectile might move when leaving magazine to chamber.... or worse, the projectile fall out of the case on recoil inside the mag

Just do like the rest of us, i reckon.... learn to reload properly, then throw them in your range cases where they bounce all around the trunk (and fall out of the range cases) then drop the range cases as you get them out of the trunk.... then, after picking them all up yet again, blow the dust off them and start shootin' em

Learn to reload correctly is the answer, then you will trust your reloads, IMO

Ifishsum · December 27, 2009, 09:22 PM

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And if the bumpy road did affect the length, it would be worse bullet up. Since that has the greatest density, having it on top would be the worst case scenario.

Jepp2 speaks the truth. Put them bullet down and don't worry about it - the light cartridge brass is no going to push down onto the heavy bullet.

wncchester · December 28, 2009, 10:38 AM

"It says 44 mag, and they do fit, I just meant finding a case where they don't have to sit upside down."

That ain't the way it's done.

"Mainly because on long bumpy trips I'm worried about the COAL being affected."

If your bullets are that loose in the cases, the first shot from a cylinder full will pull all the rest of them anyway!

Randy 1911 · December 28, 2009, 07:54 PM

If you really want a bullet box to protect the bullets. Then maybe you want something like this. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=778557

I know these come by the hundred, but they do sell smaller quainties. You will just have to look.

EDIT: here is a link to a smaller quainty.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=759153

December 24, 2009, 03:07 AM	#1
flomofo Member Join Date: April 19, 2006 Posts: 50	Issues with MTM 44 mag case... Basically I cant get my 44 mag reloads to fit in any of these new plastic mtm cases I bought. The factory 300grn 44mag rounds I have left fit in slightly easier but still wont go all the way down. So how hard should it be to stick these things in there. I did a pretty hard crimp on these and pushing as hard as I can it feels like I might actually set the bullet in deeper. I can't get all the rounds all the way down in these damn cases. Any better options?

December 24, 2009, 04:22 AM	#2
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	buy the right sized cases? __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

December 24, 2009, 10:03 PM	#4
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	Send em to me & I`ll use em for 357 mag!!! $1.00 apeice & shippin???? How much & where to send$$ MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! __________________ GP100man

December 25, 2009, 12:03 PM	#5
flomofo Member Join Date: April 19, 2006 Posts: 50	... Bullet down to make it work, but I'm trying to find something more secure. It seems like the best option is an old case of factory ammo, it doesn't look as nice but the styrofoam seems to work best. I'm just paranoid about changing the COAL, especially on uncrimped cartridges.

December 25, 2009, 10:02 PM	#6
Randy 1911 Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2009 Location: Western Arkansas Posts: 273	I have to ask again, are you sure that you have the right boxes? I have 5 of the MTM 44 Mag cases. The rounds just drop in with no resistance. What does the writing on the top of the box say? __________________ Been Reloading 27 Years NRA Member Member Old Fort Gun Club www.ofgc.org

December 24, 2009, 10:39 AM	#3
CraigC Junior member Join Date: November 28, 2001 Location: West Tennessee Posts: 4,300	What do the boxes say on the top? You are loading the boxes bullet down, right?

December 26, 2009, 11:32 PM	#7
flomofo Member Join Date: April 19, 2006 Posts: 50	... It says 44 mag, and they do fit, I just meant finding a case where they don't have to sit upside down. Mainly because on long bumpy trips I'm worried about the COAL being affected. So either a case that has some sort of tention to hold them in place or if they are loose in the case like the mtm cases, maybe a piece of foam where the bullets would impact when moving around...

December 27, 2009, 10:05 AM	#9
CraigC Junior member Join Date: November 28, 2001 Location: West Tennessee Posts: 4,300	Bumpy roads are not going to affect your overall length unless your expander plug is too large, which is a problem anyway. I've probably got at least 20 of these boxes and they work perfectly. If you're dead set of doing it your way, get those made for the .475. They will have enough room for the case heads but they'll be extremely wobbly.

December 27, 2009, 10:16 AM	#10
jepp2 Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2008 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 1,476	And if the bumpy road did affect the length, it would be worse bullet up. Since that has the greatest density, having it on top would be the worst case scenario.

December 27, 2009, 10:38 AM	#11
griz Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2000 Location: Middle Peninsula, VA Posts: 1,588	Easy, carry the box upside down.

December 27, 2009, 10:47 AM	#12
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	Bugga You beat me to it Griz If you crimp the rounds properly, you shouldnt have any problem with the coal changing. If it were possible to move the projectile in the case further once the round is complete, you have done something wrong If the projectile is loose, it (the projectile) could fall out of its case in your pocket or the projectile might move when leaving magazine to chamber.... or worse, the projectile fall out of the case on recoil inside the mag Just do like the rest of us, i reckon.... learn to reload properly, then throw them in your range cases where they bounce all around the trunk (and fall out of the range cases) then drop the range cases as you get them out of the trunk.... then, after picking them all up yet again, blow the dust off them and start shootin' em Learn to reload correctly is the answer, then you will trust your reloads, IMO __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

December 28, 2009, 10:38 AM	#14
wncchester Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2002 Posts: 2,832	"It says 44 mag, and they do fit, I just meant finding a case where they don't have to sit upside down." That ain't the way it's done. "Mainly because on long bumpy trips I'm worried about the COAL being affected." If your bullets are that loose in the cases, the first shot from a cylinder full will pull all the rest of them anyway!

December 28, 2009, 07:54 PM	#15
Randy 1911 Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2009 Location: Western Arkansas Posts: 273	If you really want a bullet box to protect the bullets. Then maybe you want something like this. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=778557 I know these come by the hundred, but they do sell smaller quainties. You will just have to look. EDIT: here is a link to a smaller quainty. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=759153 __________________ Been Reloading 27 Years NRA Member Member Old Fort Gun Club www.ofgc.org