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Old July 7, 2019, 09:48 PM   #1
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new york reload guns?

on Kojak... Det. Crocker wears a second gun in a clip on IWB SOB or at 3 o'clock. later shows he has it in a shoulder rig opposite of his issued .38 spl snub. anyone know what he carried as a second gun?
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Old July 8, 2019, 07:55 AM   #2
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Im going to hazard a guess, and say it was a prop.

I thought his backup was a lollipop?
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Old July 8, 2019, 10:39 AM   #3
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Kojak had the lillipop
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Old July 8, 2019, 11:53 AM   #4
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Yup, youre right. I saw Kojak and skipped right over Crocker.

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Old July 8, 2019, 02:15 PM   #5
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Always liked that show, along with NYPD with Jack Warden and Frank Converse -all those old revolver guy shows were pretty cool
Did they carry Colt DS or S&W CS?
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Old July 8, 2019, 03:39 PM   #6
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Frank Cannon (William Conrad), carried a Colt Detective .38 snub. Took out a plane once with it too!
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Old July 8, 2019, 04:35 PM   #7
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Whatever they carry, it beats what this revolver is getting loaded, yes loaded, with in the intro of the original Hawaii Five-O!
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Old July 8, 2019, 04:57 PM   #8
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Go look on IMFDB (Internet Movie Firearms Data Base)

lots of info there
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Old July 8, 2019, 05:57 PM   #9
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A 'New York reload' = 'The fastest reload is always a second gun.'

'Course, the 'NY reload' as a carry method is not limited to New York or to New York cops.

I remember once seeing a Miami-Dade County (Fla) vice detective toting a huge ol' 10mm shiny-something in a shoulder holster, and an Officers Model 1911 in an ankle holster.

I'm okay with a 2-gun set up; I'm just not a fan of parachute pants.
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Old July 8, 2019, 08:39 PM   #10
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the best I can guess is that its a walther ppk. I say that because of the era and what would have been a quality and available gun.
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Old July 10, 2019, 12:37 PM   #11
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Kojak was TV. Nothing on TV is real. Especially when Savalas(Kojak) would shoot a 2" .38 Special revolver from the ground at a guy on the second or third floor of a building and hit him. Every time.
"...Kojak had the lollipop..." As I recall, the story line was it kept him from smoking.
"...a huge ol' 10mm shiny-something..." Bren Ten. There was nothing else in those days.
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Old July 28, 2019, 11:55 PM   #12
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Hitting someone on the second or third floor with a snubnose is not as difficult as you might think.
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Old July 29, 2019, 12:02 AM   #13
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Whatever they carry, it beats what this revolver is getting loaded, yes loaded, with in the intro of the original Hawaii Five-O!
Those were the then-new, experimental, multi-use primers--they were supposed to be good for 5 shots each, but in field trials they weren't reliable for more than three shots so they never made it into full commercial production.
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Old July 30, 2019, 10:13 PM   #14
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I heard those worked well in the full semi-automatic revolvers though.
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Old July 30, 2019, 10:34 PM   #15
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I remember once seeing a Miami-Dade County (Fla) vice detective toting a huge ol' 10mm shiny-something in a shoulder holster, and an Officers Model 1911 in an ankle holster.
For real, or are you talking the TV show Miami Vice. In which Sonny Crocket carried a Bren 10 for seasons 1 & 2. Then switched to a S&W 645 during season 3.
If you talking real life, maybe the officer was copying his favorite TV actor, and show.
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