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Old March 24, 2020, 07:25 PM   #1
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Has anyone seen info on bill H.R.5717 ?

WOW! if the bill did get passed by congress it would be a sad day in America!! h.r.5717 - gun violence prevention and community safety act of 2020
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Old March 24, 2020, 09:52 PM   #2
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Please provide a link or we have nothing to discuss.
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Old March 24, 2020, 10:06 PM   #3
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Yeah it's pretty dang bad alright. I just pasted the table of contents below.


Sec. 101. License to own firearms and ammunition.
Sec. 102. State firearms licensing.

Sec. 201. Universal background checks.
Sec. 202. Completion of background checks; 7-day waiting period.
Sec. 203. Reporting of background check denials.

Sec. 301. Protecting victims of domestic violence.
Sec. 302. Fugitives from justice.
Sec. 303. Minimum age for purchasing firearms and ammunition.
Sec. 304. Secure gun storage by owners.
Sec. 305. Secure gun storage or safety device for all firearms.
Sec. 306. Consumer product safety standards for gun locks and gun safes.
Sec. 307. Gun-free school zones.

Sec. 401. Extreme risk protection order grant program.
Sec. 402. Federal extreme risk protection orders.
Sec. 403. Federal firearms prohibition.
Sec. 404. Identification records.
Sec. 405. Conforming amendment.
Sec. 406. Full faith and credit.
Subtitle A—Assault Weapons Ban

Sec. 511. Definitions.
Sec. 512. Restrictions on assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices.
Sec. 513. Penalties.
Sec. 514. Use of Byrne grants for buy-back programs for semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices.
Sec. 515. Ban on untraceable and undetectable firearms.
Sec. 516. Prohibition on possession of certain firearm accessories.
Subtitle B—Firearm Silencers And Mufflers Ban

Sec. 521. Definition.
Sec. 522. Restrictions on firearm silencers and firearm mufflers.
Sec. 523. Penalties.
Sec. 524. Effective date.

Sec. 601. Prohibition against multiple firearm sales or purchases.
Sec. 602. Increased penalties for making knowingly false statements in connection with firearms.
Sec. 603. Retention of records.
Sec. 604. Revised definition.
Sec. 605. Firearms trafficking.

Sec. 701. Gun shop security measures.
Sec. 702. Inspections.
Sec. 703. Employee background checks.
Sec. 704. Gun store thefts.
Sec. 705. Civil enforcement.
Sec. 706. No effect on State laws governing dealing in firearms.
Sec. 707. Lost and stolen reporting requirement.
Sec. 708. Report on implementation.
Sec. 709. Enhanced record keeping requirements.
Sec. 710. Deadline for issuance of final regulations.
Sec. 711. Repeal.

Sec. 801. Repeal.
Sec. 802. Repeal of exclusion of pistols, revolvers, and other firearms from consumer product safety laws.
Sec. 803. Increase in excise taxes relating to firearms.

Sec. 901. Community violence intervention grant program.
Sec. 902. Funding for research on firearms safety or gun violence prevention.

Sec. 1001. Severability.
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Old March 24, 2020, 11:18 PM   #4
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Some of this is a rehash of the annual AWB spectacle....

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Old March 25, 2020, 01:08 AM   #5
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So let's see...
Gun owner registration/licensing (with potentially LONG timelines)
1 gun a month limit
7 day purchase waiting period
universal background checks
"assault weapons" ban
magazine ban
repeal of protection of firearms manufacturers from harassing lawsuits
new gun store security requirements
suppressor ban
21 to buy any firearm

This is a gun-hater's wet dream and any legal gun owner's nightmare.
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Old March 25, 2020, 02:56 AM   #6
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In more normal times it would be worrisome, but now its a disaster poised to strike. One wackjob flipping out and shooting people who violated his social distance (and therefore were "attacking him with the virus) or a turf war over toilet paper and the bill will be rammed through by people who need to "do something" and who are told this bill is what needs to be done.

On the other hand, it may not be as bad as we fear, IF the right people focus on REAL problems and leave gun ownership arguments for when there is no other disaster or crisis looming...

I kind of doubt they will, but one can hope...
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Old March 25, 2020, 09:33 AM   #7
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With the news this morning all the talk about the bills being passed for the relief. The bill now has to go to the house where this bill HR 5717 originated. Senator Warren introduced from what I can see a duplicate of HR 5717 in the senate. I downloaded the Warren version and there is no number to her bill. Time will tell if they try to slip this in with current legislation posed as the relief package. The house bill was drafted January 20,2020 and introduced on March 10,2020. Anybody besides me see why they waited to introduce the bill???? Watch the left hand and forget what the right hand is doing. An attempt to slip it by so no one notices.
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Old March 25, 2020, 02:38 PM   #8
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It only has 18 co-sponsors, and Maloney is the only one on that list with any real sway on the issue. I don't see it going anywhere.
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Old March 26, 2020, 11:28 AM   #9
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I don't see it going anywhere.
Agreed...if you scan through the text of the bill you'll find it's mostly a rehashing of older proposals that also went nowhere.

If you go to the bill itself, there's the option to be alerted to any changes in status.
(I tried that years ago & my email was swamped in short order with all the alerts I got from all the bills I signed up to send me alerts. It was so nasty, I had to drop that email account and start all over again wit a different one.)
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