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Old December 18, 2019, 08:56 AM   #26
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Didn't know that but the OP is in North Carolina...same there?
That depends on the what NC law says; which is why I said earlier:
so see what YOUR state law has to say about that
Many states DO have that employee protection; it is up to the OP to research that
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Old December 18, 2019, 10:49 AM   #27
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I once did ask to put a memorandum in my file when I signed the employ-conduct policy stating “no firearms”. I basically stated that the company assumes all responsibility for my safety against an assault, attack, active shooter, workplace violence, etc., and that if injured or killed while at work without the means to defend myself, I or my surviving family will sue for damages for violating my Constitutional rights of life and self-defense. I didn’t stay there long, but the company lawyer said the company couldn’t guarantee my personal safety…which I countered with why let me take care of that myself? This just shows the irony of company policies that protect the company but have nothing to do with the individual safety of their employees.
I faced a similar situation when I took a part-time job at a Barnes & Noble book store. When I reported for my first day of work on a Monday, they gave me a copy of the personnel manual and told me to take it home, read it, and then sign a paper acknowledging that I had read it and that I agreed to it. One of the conditions was no firearms on company premises.

The stores are NOT posted, and customers are allowed to be armed. I was going to be working the closing shift, in a questionable neighborhood, and their store stayed open an hour later than every other business in the center. I asked if I could keep my carry pistol in my locker so that I wouldn't have to be unarmed going from the store to my car. The manager checked with corporate. On Wednesday the answer came back: "No." I handed her my resignation, and Friday was my last day.

I don't like to admit it, but I might have chosen differently if that had been my primary job.
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Old December 18, 2019, 01:46 PM   #28
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It can go even further. Most of us accept a "their house, their rules" concept, I do, and I expect you to, when you are in MY house.

Most of us understand how our employers "own" us from 9-5 (or whatever your shift is), BUT, we're not bound by their rules when we are on our own time.


Unfortunately, less and less in America, today. And, especially the further above entry level employment that you go.

Many companies are taking (or have taken) the stance that since you work for them, your behavior, on, and OFF the job represents the company.

Anything that THEY consider reflects poorly on them, can cost you your job these days. Particularly if your job is something with a public presence. Look at all the people in entertainment/sports that lose huge contracts because they SAID something someone found offensive.

They my only pay you for an 8hr shift, but they OWN you 24/7. Disagree with that? Fine. Go find another job. IF you can....(once we put the word out...)

Once upon a time in America, what you did off the job was considered to be your private business (providing you broke no laws). Not that way today, for a lot of jobs. Check that employee rulebook carefully. Once company I know of had in their rules "employees are not allowed to possess firearms, except in the course of their official duties". I asked if this meant at home, as well, and the answer I got back was "not yet...."

the more this goes on, the happier I am that I'm retired...
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Old December 18, 2019, 05:54 PM   #29
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44 AMP, I understand what you are saying but there have been times in America where employers were even MORE controlling than today. For example, take a gander at the rules for teachers around the turn of the 20th century. Talk about not having a real life!
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