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April 15, 2020, 09:07 PM | #51 |
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Why cant they buy? Firearms are essential business.
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April 16, 2020, 06:18 AM | #52 | |
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NYS has deemed they are not essential, and almost all of ours are closed
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April 16, 2020, 07:43 AM | #53 |
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In Indy big chain closed to all but members......that way they dont have to refund
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April 16, 2020, 02:25 PM | #54 | |
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New York seems to be an exception. I wish y'all the best of luck.
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April 16, 2020, 04:09 PM | #56 |
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In my area the issue is two fold: most stores around here won't let people in to take the required test for the Firearms Safety Certificate due to "Social Distancing" and then they are busy clearing the backlog for all guns / ammo on order / DROS due to all of the paperwork involved. The big chain here only allows two people in the store at a time and only the person(s) who have business.....no friends / spouces / kids. They can only cycle 3-4 people per hour through the stores.
So if you had a gun on DROS, when it clears they call you to set an appointment to do all of the rest of Kommiefornia's paperwork so you can pick up your gun. In the mean time, no new guns are being sold, no person to person transfers, & no arranging a FFL transfer. |
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April 16, 2020, 07:43 PM | #58 |
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No issues in the Virginia mountains.
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April 16, 2020, 08:03 PM | #59 | |
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April 16, 2020, 09:39 PM | #61 |
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The statement by the Trump administration was guidance, not an order
https://time.com/5812778/trump-admin...l-coronavirus/
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April 18, 2020, 06:26 AM | #65 | |
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from selling guns . Preserving National security and economic viability is why the DHs list exists. The list is what the Federal govt deems necessary and essential for its function. State laws are subordinate to the LAWS that created DHS and gave it the authority to maintain the list of essential businesses and infrastructure. I learned about this from my trade association lawyers because we are remaining open despite our state attempting to shut down some of the members of our trade association. Interstate commerce trumps state governors. The high court rulings on Fed Vs states have been consistent for the last 150 years. The governors are making an illegal and dangerous power grab. An individual state can not decide to throw a wrench in the war machine of the nation. When these cases finally make it to appeals court level in Federal court, this will be confirmed and damages will be awarded. Last edited by reynolds357; April 18, 2020 at 06:41 AM. |
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As to whether some governors' orders are unconstitutional ... it is my understanding that lawsuits have been filed in some states, and that's the established procedure for determining if/when something the government does is or isn't constitutional. Quote:
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April 18, 2020, 01:10 PM | #67 | |
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A State can not simply decide to deny rights given by the COTUS. COTUS rights are guaranteed to All citizens of all states. |
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April 18, 2020, 01:33 PM | #68 |
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yes, the pawn shops will buy low, and sell high. we may still be able to get some items at very good prices, but i think the usual shopping around may be in order, if there are more than one pawn shops in your area. but then too, the gun stores themselves, may also see a flood or returned items as well.
and if you are a regular customer of a particular gun shop or two, or three, i think better deals can be had, as you are a known person, rather than just someone off the street. |
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April 18, 2020, 04:15 PM | #70 |
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"KEEP AND BEAR ARMS?" Tell that to the people in New Orleans after Katrina!
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April 19, 2020, 07:26 AM | #71 | |
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April 19, 2020, 07:37 AM | #72 |
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US CODE 5207?????????? Keep thinking that. ANY law that is passed CAN AND will be ignored.
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April 19, 2020, 10:11 AM | #73 |
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Re the above. Regardless whether or not these people panic buying first time guns will become dyed in the wool 2A proponents.
I'm just glad that there are newly awakened people who, at long last, realize gun ownership is essential. They realize guns are tools and not inherently evil, and that nobody is going to protect them but themselves. I saw a cartoon of a 30 something woman in a gun store with a shoulder bag full of toilet paper. She was exclaiming, "Why can't I have my gun now?! Why do I have to wait ten days?!" The dealer said, "Do you believe in gun control?" The lady said, "Well, yes, of course. But what does this have to do with gun control?" The dealer said, "Lady, this is gun control." |
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Do most of you expect the "new gun owner" anxiety so cool off as they read (if literate) or hear about several states' governors planning to slowly allow most businesses to reopen?
As long as there are no solid signs weeks later of a Chinese Virus relapse/return, this could gradually deflate the 'anxiety bubble'? My planning began in 2008 (lots of ammo for This type of situation), but am curious for the sake of Other people--- with dramatically reduced incomes who can't afford an extra gun for a spouse, and no cash for a decent ammo reserve. Armslist can be a very good alternative. Many states still require No background check. Tons of handguns and rifles are available in any city and so many towns-some seem to be at fairly 'normal' pre-virus prices. If people don't have the correct common sense to use Armslist, they don't have enough common sense to own, or especially to carry a gun. With a pawnshop, you will very seldom even see the previous owner. Last edited by Ignition Override; April 23, 2020 at 01:01 AM. |
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