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240gr Nosler JSP | 12 | 48.00% | |
240gr Swift A-Frame | 3 | 12.00% | |
265gr Hornady Interlock | 10 | 40.00% | |
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February 21, 2021, 09:30 PM | #26 |
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I disagree. For deer any of those would get the job done, no problem. Boar on the other hand are tough. they have a "shield" that covers their vitals. It is similar to scar tissue/heavy leather and can be 1-2in thick. Not just any bullet will do, you need to lean towards a heavy game bullet that will hold together well...
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February 21, 2021, 09:52 PM | #28 |
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Be careful about that. You might run afoul of ITAR regulations.
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February 21, 2021, 11:43 PM | #29 |
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Took a quick glance a ITAR. Its not "ammunition" just a component with no explosive(primer) or propellant. Also as it is already commercially available there , there should be no export or import restrictions on the item itself, just logistics issues to get it there. But if you know more feel free to fill in....
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February 22, 2021, 12:25 AM | #31 | |
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1) What ITAR actually said 2) What people are actually willing to do which tends to be more restrictive as they want to avoid touching ITAR Scrummy |
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February 22, 2021, 01:51 AM | #32 |
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I would vote for hand-cast bullets first, but if you must have jacketed bullets, you ought to try the Speer 270 grain bullets a chance, if you can get them.
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February 22, 2021, 02:03 AM | #33 | |
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I like the look of the 270gr Speer. I'm guessing that is what Federal are using in their "Hammerdown" rifle ammunition line? Scrummy |
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February 22, 2021, 03:21 AM | #34 | |
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February 22, 2021, 12:24 PM | #38 |
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Sorry Keybear, 2.0 gr window?
I guess that is good or bad not sure what sorry is ? I got the Data from Hornady starting load 23.0 max load 24.0 N110 The VihtaVuori manual is the same for N110 |
February 22, 2021, 01:40 PM | #39 |
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1-20"
Question to the OP.....what is the manufacture of your .44 lever rifle?
The 1-20" twist rate description of the OP's .44 has caught my eye. Most all the traditional .44 mag lever carbines (and the original Ruger semi .44) were twisted 1-38" and gave so-so accuracy in many examples. The faster twist rate of 1-20" is more in line with revolver twist rates and was used by Ruger in their model 96 and 99 carbines before they went defunct. I don't know what twist rate was used in the last of the Marlin levers. The .44/265gr brought the .444 Marlin up to its true potential. The lighter slugs were far better suited to .44 mag velocities. If I had a .44 mag carbine with a 1-20" twist, I'd shoot 240 gr JHP for deer. The 240 gr slug is a chunk of lead, and I cannot imagine it not passing thru a whitetail on a broadside shot. If I felt I needed more penetration, I'd opt for a JSP. Big (200 lb plus) hogs are tough, but they are not bullet proof. |
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Viht's current online data for the 240gr Hornady JTC-Sil is 20.4-22.1 which is a 1.7gr range. https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading.../?cartridge=47 Scrummy |
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It's a 20" barrel, 1:20" twist Chiappa Alaskan. Currently with a Leupold 2.5x28 Scout Scope Skinner carry case: Reckon should be good for a cleaning kit / rod and an MTM box of 50 rds. And when you unpack it: And out on the range: Hoping to develop a plinking load (240gr cast lead RNFP and Unique is current favourite but not so keen on how unique measures) and a hunting load. For the hunting load, Thinking 240 gr Nosler JSP or maybe Swift A-Frame / 265gr Hornady over H110 which I have some of or N110 which is still relatively obtainable and cheaper here. Best wishes, Scrummy |
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February 22, 2021, 02:54 PM | #42 |
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Viht's current online data for the 240gr Hornady JTC-Sil is 20.4-22.1 which is a 1.7gr range.
My VihtaVuori manual is a older copy maybe 20 years old . The manual has a starting load of 19.9 and max of 21.7 useing N110 . Just me but i do not care for a powder that close to start and max loads . I have a pound of N110 that a dealer gave me some time ago i will not use it . The powder (N110) is temperature sensitive as in my manual . I shoot a bunch of unique and 240gr. lead bullets . My load in handguns is 10.2 and like it |
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N110 is a bit temp sensitive but so are all the H110, 2400, W296 type powders. N110 is at least single based so likely to be a bit less so. Certainly H110 is rarely seen with more than a 1.0gr spread (Both Nosler and Hodgdon quote the 240gr JSP with only a 1.0gr spread). I hear what you are saying with a 10.2 gr load but that has no hope of making the muzzle energy requirements I need unfortunatley (I quite often plink with a 240gr RNFP and about 6.5gr of Unique) |
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H110 is one of the best powders as is 296 that I preferred at a time when win was winchester brand. As far as bullets I've always like the 210 class of weight for my pistol. As I manually H.P. 240 cast to 210 weight. 240gr. jacketed weight gave the best accuracy in my rifles. (Ruger 44 mag semi & Win 94 Trapper.) Sold the Regan era Trapper and gave the Ruger to my son for his brace of hunting rifles.
As of Christmas the Ruger long ago became a safe queen according to my son. To be honest if interested in a straight wall rifle cartridge. I would rather have a 45-70 or 500 SW big bore than a 44 mag. |
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In a 4.5/8 Ruger SUPER BLACKHAWK 10.2gr. of Unique is 890 fps . Out of a 20 inch barrel you will be pushing a lead bullet very fast . (It Better be hard) |
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Unique just won't get there and where I am hard cast lead just isn't such a thing to buy and I certainly can't cast it. I started this thread with some very specific questions for a reason |
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February 22, 2021, 06:29 PM | #50 |
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BTW--I just got CVA's 2021 catalog e-mailed and they had a 44 mag hunter single-shot available for just over $200--I snapped one up cause the 444 marlin hunter I have is a superlative shooter and I suspect (hope) this one will be too.
BTW Scrummy--that is a magnificent looking rifle. 23.8 grs H110 240 Nosler jsp shot through my 16" Rossi
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