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Old October 18, 2013, 05:31 PM   #1
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38 dies for 357 ?

Can I use my Lee carbide .38 dies for .357?
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Old October 18, 2013, 05:37 PM   #2
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Old October 18, 2013, 06:11 PM   #3
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"Can I use my Lee carbide .38 dies for .357?"

The problem is not with the sizing die, it is with the seating die, the 357 Mag die is too tall to crimp the 38 Special, the nice thing, the 38 Special seating die can be used to crimp 375 Magnum cases by adjusting the die up.

I have Lee dies, I do not use them.

I n the big inning RCBS made 38 Special dies, then when the 357 Magnum came available RCBS made a set if dies for the 357 Magnum, after that? They made a set of dies that would both the 38 Special and 357 Magnum with a shim to raise the seating die.

They were not through, they also made a set of dies for the 44 Special, then they made a set for the 44 Remington Mag, and then? They made a set of dies that would load both the 44 Special and 44 Remington Mag, they added a shim to raise the seating die.

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Old October 18, 2013, 07:01 PM   #4
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I have the RCBS 38/357 dies - with the .135 shim
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Old October 18, 2013, 07:29 PM   #5
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Old October 18, 2013, 07:35 PM   #6
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Just curious... do the Lee dies adjust up enough for .357?
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Old October 18, 2013, 07:53 PM   #7
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I've been using my Lee 38spcl dies for .357 for 25 years. Recently, I discovered the .135 sizer rings/shims so that adjustments are kept to a minimum when switching between 38 and .357.
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Old October 18, 2013, 08:29 PM   #8
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Just curious... do the Lee dies adjust up enough for .357?
Just get the Factory Crimp Die.
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Old October 21, 2013, 06:22 PM   #9
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Got the RCBS dies for .357 & .38, that use a shim, and they have served me very well for the past three decades+!
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Old October 21, 2013, 08:07 PM   #10
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"Just curious... do the Lee dies adjust up enough for .357?"

Yes.
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Old October 23, 2013, 12:22 PM   #11
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Can I use my Lee carbide .38 dies for .357?
Back out the expander die and the bullet seating die 2 full turns. Then make very slight adjustments from there if needed.
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Old October 23, 2013, 07:58 PM   #12
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Absolutely can be done, my Lee dies are labeled .38special/.357magnum! The problem is the instructions do not show how to set up for .357mag.

You either have to research the method or trial and error, or have the shim like RCBS. The latter is what I plan to get, I hate having to readjust(which is what I have been doing), and I hate the thought of purchasing another set of the same dies.
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Old October 24, 2013, 06:25 AM   #13
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Lee dies

I use the Lee 4 die set 38/357 - with the .135 shim works great using the same type of bullet
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Old October 24, 2013, 09:29 AM   #14
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I didnt even realize they made separate ide sets for .38/.357. I bought Lyman carbide dies in the 80's labeled for 38/357 and 44Mag/Spl and just assumed they were all that way. I just have to readjust from one to the other. Also when I bought my .454 Casull in the 80's nobody had Casull dies, so I boght and have used Hornady 45LC carbide dies since then. Its hard for me to imagine any dies for these cartidges not having the range to accomodate both, but I guess I have leraned something.

I've not yet seen issues with true squared straight wall pistol catridges, but I've never seen it work with tapered cartridges like most semi-auto rounds such as 9mm/.380 or a .45ACP in a LC die.
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Old October 24, 2013, 07:24 PM   #15
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My Lee dies have "38spl/.357 mag/.357 max" on the instructions so...yeah you should be ok

I use the same factory crimp die for .38 spl and .357 mag. I much prefer that as opposed to using the seating die to crimp
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Old October 24, 2013, 08:51 PM   #16
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I have the Lee 4 die set - you'd think that Lee would offer the shim as it makes sense that it would be an easy set-up if you're using the same bullet to just shim the die. I'm planning on ordering a few of the shims to use on my Lee turret just to eliminate having to set up for the 357.
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