C&R in 45acp

dolidog2000 · May 17, 2011, 11:13 AM

Is there such a thing as a C&R pistiol or revolver that will fire 45acp? Can't a 9x19 case be trimmed to 9x18 & reloaded for use in a CZ?

Don H · May 17, 2011, 11:29 AM

Older 1911s that meet the age criteria and newer ones that have been deemed to be Curios by the BATF are C&R. There are older .45ACP revolvers, I believe, that meet the C&R criteria. The 9 x 19 and the 9 x 18 have different case and bullet diameters, the 9 x 19 being the smaller of the two.

marklmurray · May 17, 2011, 12:13 PM

As far as using resized 9x19 cases for 9x18 reloads, there is some good information on makarov.com (http://makarov.com/makload.html), that confirms that this is a common and save practice. While the bullet diameter of a 9x19 is indeed smaller than 9x18, the 9x19 case tapers, so it's possible to use (trimmed).

James K · May 17, 2011, 01:34 PM

Under the 50 year rule, all WWI M1911s and WWII M1911A1s are C&R, as well as Argentine Sistema Colts, Colts sold to Argentina, Argentine Ballester Molina/Ballester Rigaud pistols, and Norwegian Model 1914s. Colt Government Model (commercial) guns made before 1961 are also C&R. All S&W and Colt M1917 revolvers and many later revolvers made up to 1960 are also in C&R status. (I don't think the Ruger convertibles are there yet, but they will be in a couple of years.)

Jim

jh9x18ky · May 17, 2011, 01:45 PM

You can trim and resize 9x19 case for the 9x18 round. I have used many of the resized cases myself.... 1st trim to length, then resize with 9x18 die. As stated before.... good info at makarov.com

hAkron · May 24, 2011, 10:21 PM

I resize and decap my 9x19 (Lyman trimmer works best with no primer, then I expand the case mouth, then I trim. Flared case mouth makes the trimming go easier.

May 17, 2011, 11:13 AM	#1
dolidog2000 Junior Member Join Date: December 18, 2008 Posts: 3	C&R in 45acp Is there such a thing as a C&R pistiol or revolver that will fire 45acp? Can't a 9x19 case be trimmed to 9x18 & reloaded for use in a CZ?

May 17, 2011, 11:29 AM	#2
Don H Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2000 Location: SLC,Utah Posts: 2,704	Older 1911s that meet the age criteria and newer ones that have been deemed to be Curios by the BATF are C&R. There are older .45ACP revolvers, I believe, that meet the C&R criteria. The 9 x 19 and the 9 x 18 have different case and bullet diameters, the 9 x 19 being the smaller of the two. __________________ Don http://www.utahconcealedcarry.com/forum/

May 17, 2011, 01:45 PM	#5
jh9x18ky Member Join Date: January 17, 2007 Location: KY Posts: 47	You can trim and resize 9x19 case for the 9x18 round. I have used many of the resized cases myself.... 1st trim to length, then resize with 9x18 die. As stated before.... good info at makarov.com __________________ "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid for." Clint Smith Last edited by jh9x18ky; May 17, 2011 at 01:46 PM. Reason: typing error

May 17, 2011, 12:13 PM	#3
marklmurray Member Join Date: December 12, 2010 Posts: 57	As far as using resized 9x19 cases for 9x18 reloads, there is some good information on makarov.com (http://makarov.com/makload.html), that confirms that this is a common and save practice. While the bullet diameter of a 9x19 is indeed smaller than 9x18, the 9x19 case tapers, so it's possible to use (trimmed).

May 17, 2011, 01:34 PM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Under the 50 year rule, all WWI M1911s and WWII M1911A1s are C&R, as well as Argentine Sistema Colts, Colts sold to Argentina, Argentine Ballester Molina/Ballester Rigaud pistols, and Norwegian Model 1914s. Colt Government Model (commercial) guns made before 1961 are also C&R. All S&W and Colt M1917 revolvers and many later revolvers made up to 1960 are also in C&R status. (I don't think the Ruger convertibles are there yet, but they will be in a couple of years.) Jim

May 24, 2011, 10:21 PM	#6
hAkron Senior Member Join Date: March 31, 2011 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 318	I resize and decap my 9x19 (Lyman trimmer works best with no primer, then I expand the case mouth, then I trim. Flared case mouth makes the trimming go easier.