box of pistols

pro tc · May 7, 2011, 11:55 PM

my brother got this box of pistols at a garage sale for 350.00 also 3guns worth of parts you guys see any thing good?
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Tidewater_Kid · May 8, 2011, 12:31 PM

Hard to tell from the picture. Close-up pictures with markings would tell us more. Looks like several Iver Johnsons, but again hard to tell.

TK

cougar gt-e · May 8, 2011, 01:28 PM

Dunno about the resale value, but I sure would have plunked down the $$.

YARDDOG(1) · May 8, 2011, 01:53 PM

Yea ^^^^^^ This
Y/D

Hawg · May 8, 2011, 02:01 PM

Looks like mostly if not all IJ's, maybe a Forehand and Wadsworth or two. Hard to tell.

jonnyc · May 8, 2011, 02:02 PM

All together...worth just about...$350.

Pukindog · May 8, 2011, 02:17 PM

They might be worth more at a gun buy-back. Around here the cops will give you $100.00 in food coupons/stamps for any gun regardless of condition.

Jeff

Hawg · May 8, 2011, 02:39 PM

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All together...worth just about...$350.

Nah, if they're as good as they look and working there's 600-700 bucks worth of guns there even if they're all IJ's

James K · May 8, 2011, 05:32 PM

Several of those guns look like foreign imitations of S&W breaktops; those would probably be worth less than IJ's or H&Rs.

One possible use is for decoys. Deactivate them and display them in such a way that any unwelcome visitors will take them and not bother to look for the good stuff.

Jim

pro tc · May 8, 2011, 09:29 PM

ok got some more info. one is a british bulldog. one is a 1898 harrington and richardson. one 1887 harrington and richardson. older hpkin and allen double action no,6 38 cal. couple american bulldogs. older harrington 22 rimfire that all i have got so far
Barry

Dino. · May 8, 2011, 09:52 PM

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my brother got this box of pistols at a garage sale ...

Is that even legal?

BTW ... looks like a good deal to me, but what do I know.

dogtown tom · May 8, 2011, 10:20 PM

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Dino:...Is that even legal?

No Federal law prohibits residents of the same state from buying or selling guns to each other.

jtb1967 · May 9, 2011, 08:20 AM

Without a lot more info, I'd say he paid about the full value. I'm assuming most are only good for parts.

musher · May 9, 2011, 09:41 AM

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No Federal law prohibits residents of the same state from buying or selling guns to each other.

It's usually a good idea to put a smiley or some other indication you're joking, otherwise folks might think you're passing on good info.

Hardcase · May 9, 2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dino.

Is that even legal?

I know that it's legal in Idaho, but I wouldn't even hazard a guess at anywhere else.

MLeake · May 9, 2011, 09:58 AM

Musher, other than determining the seller and buyer are residents of the state where the transaction occurs, and the seller having no reason to suspect the buyer is a prohibited person, what Federal law are you implying is applicable?

32 Magnum · May 9, 2011, 11:33 AM

Fourth one from the right looks to be the 1887 H&R SHELL EXTRACTING aka "Manual Ejector" model revolver. That one alone, if in antique GOOD or better will bring between $225 and $300 from a collector.
The one left of it, in blue - is the 1898 H&R - could be worth up to $200 depending upon condition.

carguychris · May 9, 2011, 03:49 PM

Third from left- prewar I frame S&W .32 Hand Ejector, maybe a Model of 1903? (Looks like it's cocked?!?) Doesn't look rusty, just dusty, could be worth $150-$300 depending on finish.

OTOH many Spanish copies of this gun exist; they're best suited as trotline weights and they're valued accordingly.

jtb1967 · May 9, 2011, 05:37 PM

I don't think he's even told us if any of them function yet. I'm betting there's more than one timing issue in the box.

emcon5 · May 9, 2011, 07:02 PM

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It's usually a good idea to put a smiley or some other indication you're joking, otherwise folks might think you're passing on good info.

He is right. There is no Federal law preventing a private sale between two residents of the same state.

You may know this as "the gun show loophole" the Brady clowns are always whining about.

Some states may have more restrictive laws, it would certainly be illegal in California for example, but only because they are pistols. Rifles over 50 years old would be fine.

dogtown tom · May 9, 2011, 09:53 PM

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musher

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No Federal law prohibits residents of the same state from buying or selling guns to each other.

It's usually a good idea to put a smiley or some other indication you're joking, otherwise folks might think you're passing on good info.

Seriously?

Here you go:http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unli...ensed-transfer

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ATF Firearms FAQ'sQ: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

Hows that for good info?

pro tc · May 9, 2011, 10:18 PM

yes he has shot at least one.
Barry

Magnum Wheel Man · May 10, 2011, 07:19 AM

Good catch...

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Fourth one from the right looks to be the 1887 H&R SHELL EXTRACTING aka "Manual Ejector" model revolver. That one alone, if in antique GOOD or better will bring between $225 and $300 from a collector.

I'm a collector of guns of this era, & I've got a .38 & been trying to buy a 32 for a reasonable price... going through them, one by one may prove that he got a great deal... obviously depending on condition...

**Mike Irwin** · May 10, 2011, 07:46 AM

It looks like there's a good chance that some, if not all, of those handguns are also antiques, pre-1898.

I don't know what the third one from the left is, but I'm certain it's not a Smith & Wesson. There's no thumb latch to release the cylinder.

carguychris · May 10, 2011, 10:42 AM

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I don't know what the third one from the left is, but I'm certain it's not a Smith & Wesson. There's no thumb latch to release the cylinder.

You're right of course. <slaps forehead>

Possibly a Spanish copy with an ejector-rod cylinder release. See my previous post re: value.

May 7, 2011, 11:55 PM	#1
pro tc Junior member Join Date: January 2, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 33	box of pistols my brother got this box of pistols at a garage sale for 350.00 also 3guns worth of parts you guys see any thing good? [IMG][/IMG]

May 8, 2011, 01:53 PM	#4
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May 8, 2011, 02:17 PM	#7
Pukindog Member Join Date: December 10, 2009 Posts: 90	pistols They might be worth more at a gun buy-back. Around here the cops will give you $100.00 in food coupons/stamps for any gun regardless of condition. Jeff

May 9, 2011, 03:49 PM	#18
carguychris Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2007 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 7,523	Third from left- prewar I frame S&W .32 Hand Ejector, maybe a Model of 1903? (Looks like it's cocked?!?) Doesn't look rusty, just dusty, could be worth $150-$300 depending on finish. OTOH many Spanish copies of this gun exist; they're best suited as trotline weights and they're valued accordingly. __________________ "Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules... MARK IT ZERO!!" - Walter Sobchak

May 10, 2011, 07:46 AM	#24
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	It looks like there's a good chance that some, if not all, of those handguns are also antiques, pre-1898. I don't know what the third one from the left is, but I'm certain it's not a Smith & Wesson. There's no thumb latch to release the cylinder. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

May 8, 2011, 12:31 PM	#2
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	Hard to tell from the picture. Close-up pictures with markings would tell us more. Looks like several Iver Johnsons, but again hard to tell. TK

May 8, 2011, 01:28 PM	#3
cougar gt-e Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2009 Posts: 1,003	Dunno about the resale value, but I sure would have plunked down the $$.

May 8, 2011, 02:01 PM	#5
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Looks like mostly if not all IJ's, maybe a Forehand and Wadsworth or two. Hard to tell.

May 8, 2011, 02:02 PM	#6
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	All together...worth just about...$350.

May 8, 2011, 05:32 PM	#9
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Several of those guns look like foreign imitations of S&W breaktops; those would probably be worth less than IJ's or H&Rs. One possible use is for decoys. Deactivate them and display them in such a way that any unwelcome visitors will take them and not bother to look for the good stuff. Jim

May 8, 2011, 09:29 PM	#10
pro tc Junior member Join Date: January 2, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 33	ok got some more info. one is a british bulldog. one is a 1898 harrington and richardson. one 1887 harrington and richardson. older hpkin and allen double action no,6 38 cal. couple american bulldogs. older harrington 22 rimfire that all i have got so far Barry

May 9, 2011, 08:20 AM	#13
jtb1967 Junior member Join Date: September 29, 2004 Location: WV Posts: 454	Without a lot more info, I'd say he paid about the full value. I'm assuming most are only good for parts.

May 9, 2011, 09:58 AM	#16
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Musher, other than determining the seller and buyer are residents of the state where the transaction occurs, and the seller having no reason to suspect the buyer is a prohibited person, what Federal law are you implying is applicable?

May 9, 2011, 11:33 AM	#17
32 Magnum Member In Memoriam Join Date: January 17, 2009 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 364	Fourth one from the right looks to be the 1887 H&R SHELL EXTRACTING aka "Manual Ejector" model revolver. That one alone, if in antique GOOD or better will bring between $225 and $300 from a collector. The one left of it, in blue - is the 1898 H&R - could be worth up to $200 depending upon condition.

May 9, 2011, 05:37 PM	#19
jtb1967 Junior member Join Date: September 29, 2004 Location: WV Posts: 454	I don't think he's even told us if any of them function yet. I'm betting there's more than one timing issue in the box.

May 9, 2011, 10:18 PM	#22
pro tc Junior member Join Date: January 2, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 33	yes he has shot at least one. Barry