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Old January 2, 2021, 02:36 PM   #26
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Did you include a gratuity with your F4?
Ok, so how big of a gratuity do I include? 20%?
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Old January 2, 2021, 03:07 PM   #27
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Received a stamp today on a Form 4 I signed on August 25th.

Four months ain't too shabby.
Hoping for the same ! I did my first "e-file" kiosk method from the Silencer Shop. I bought the Dead Air Mask 22 HD rimfire. Looks like my form 4 is complete and has been submitted as of 12/28 / 2020
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Old January 5, 2021, 10:00 AM   #28
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Road_Clam.....Hoping for the same ! I did my first "e-file" kiosk method from the Silencer Shop.
No, you didn't.
All the kiosk does is scan fingerprints and let the buyer fill in information for the PAPER Form 4 that SS will submit with your photo and a printed fingerprint card. The kiosk doesn't submit anything to ATF.

eForms is the online system at ATF that allows you to file NFA Form 1's, 2's, 3's, etc EXCEPT for Form 4's. It IS an electronic submission and you don't submit a paper form.

At one time Silencer Shop would file F1's for customers, but ATF did a 180 and now does not let that happen.



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I bought the Dead Air Mask 22 HD rimfire. Looks like my form 4 is complete and has been submitted as of 12/28 / 2020
Most popular silencer I sell.
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Old January 6, 2021, 01:31 PM   #29
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Ahh ok so its a "faster" method to submit your traditional paper f4. The kiosk while faster was a REAL pia to use. I had a very tough time trying to "roll" my pinky fingers. Had to do multiple scan tries to get a "good" read.
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Old January 6, 2021, 09:06 PM   #30
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Road_Clam... Had to do multiple scan tries to get a "good" read.
Ignore the "grade" your scan gives. I've had beautifully detailed prints show "poor" and horrible smeared prints grade "very good".

If you see the loops/whorls/arches and don't have gaps or smudges you have an acceptable fingerprint. It's a waste of time and completely unnecessary to try and score "good" on every one.

Often a tiny, tiny bit of hand lotion rubbed on your fingertips makes it easier to scan.
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Old January 7, 2021, 09:24 AM   #31
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After like 3 attempts on my pinky roll scans my sales guy commented that "poor" read is ok. Plus i dont know if it makes a difference or not but i have two prior ink printed F4 fingerprint submissions already on file.
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Old January 7, 2021, 09:41 PM   #32
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Road_Clam ... Plus i dont know if it makes a difference or not but i have two prior ink printed F4 fingerprint submissions already on file.
It doesn't.
ATF just files the fingerprint cards, doesn't even send them to the FBI.
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Old February 22, 2021, 05:33 PM   #33
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Holy crap....

Check cashed 10/7/2020.

Just got the call the stamp has been received.

Under 5 months.
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Old April 25, 2021, 05:07 PM   #34
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Dropped form 4 in the mail 4-13 for a Bowers Dreadnaught.

Charged my card 4-23.

Last can I got, was about 5 months. Hoping for the same, or better, with this one.
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