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Old January 25, 2018, 01:16 PM   #51
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It wouldn't take much to program a series of bots for this and see who actually falls for it.
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Old January 25, 2018, 04:09 PM   #52
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The agent perked up a bit when he thought I'd actually sold the shotgun. Once I explained that I had not done so because I knew that doing so was a federal crime, he lost interest. BATFE was not interested, because I hadn't gone through with the deal. Apparently, solicitation of a federal firearms crime wasn't sexy enough for them.
This is, unfortunately, all to common, and not a new thing, nor is it limited to just the ATF.

I remember one administration that bragged how their gun control laws (background check) had kept "thousands of prohibited people from getting guns". When asked how many of those prohibited people were prosecuted, the answer was a softly spoken "43". and NONE of those had, at that time been convicted. I doubt any actually ever were...
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Old January 28, 2018, 09:45 AM   #53
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I remember one administration that bragged how their gun control laws (background check) had kept "thousands of prohibited people from getting guns". When asked how many of those prohibited people were prosecuted, the answer was a softly spoken "43". and NONE of those had, at that time been convicted. I doubt any actually ever were.
I seriously doubt the prosecution levels for this stuff will ever get serious. They seem more concerned with entrapment than actual prosecution of a prohibited person trying to illegally buy a firearm. Like a lot of laws, they only effect those of us that choose to obey them.
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Old January 28, 2018, 07:19 PM   #54
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For what it is worth, in 2010, NICS referred 76,142 denials to ATF. ATF referred 4,732 of those denials to field offices for investigation. Of those, 509 were not prohibited people. For various reasons, 1,923 cases were further investigator and 1,164 firearms were retrieved. 62 cases were referred for prosecution.

Of the 62 cases referred for prosecution: 18 were declined by a prosecutor, 13 were dismissed via plea agreement, 13 pled guilty and 12 were still pending when the study was published.

76,142 denials. 1,164 firearms retrieved. 26 guilty pleas.

Source: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/grants/239272.pdf
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Old January 28, 2018, 09:23 PM   #55
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It sure is a good thing the United States is a nation of laws ...
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