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January 6, 2015, 11:56 AM | #51 |
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If all you're basing your selection process on is cost, you do limit yourself.
Beyond that, there are many quality .22s, several .38s, and so on that offer good triggers, usable sights, affordable & readily available ammunition, and factory/gunsmith support. There's probably no better caliber in terms of component availability & pricing for a handloader than the .38, if the .22 isn't exciting enough, and you can find a frame size & grip option to fit almost any hand. Denis |
January 6, 2015, 01:08 PM | #52 |
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The SA trigger and sights on my Nagant are very good.
A good supply of ammo is as close as my reloading room .... If he does not buy this now, he'll regret it in 20 years. |
January 6, 2015, 01:27 PM | #53 |
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Oh good grief why did I even start this thread. I just ordered one. Curiosity got the best of me. Because they say these are dated in the '20's.
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January 6, 2015, 01:49 PM | #54 |
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They're fun, you should enjoy it.
I've had three. Denis |
January 6, 2015, 02:04 PM | #55 |
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I've got a 39 Tula, I want to see what I get being these are supposed to be older.
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January 6, 2015, 02:09 PM | #56 |
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Oh heck, 20's??? That's before they used quality steel. Only shoot black powder in those...
kidding
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January 6, 2015, 02:12 PM | #57 |
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Mine is a 38 Tula. I had several but settled on this one for my collection.
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January 6, 2015, 03:04 PM | #58 |
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My oldest was a 1936.
Had two un-altered & one modified for the .32 S&W. That one shaved like a barber. Denis |
January 6, 2015, 03:30 PM | #59 |
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Denis, would a 9mm be fine? Or a .38 Special? Can you recommend some good ones I might find locally? Sorry for a bit of thread derailment.
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January 6, 2015, 03:54 PM | #60 |
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Mo,
You've already been through numerous discussions on this subject back when discussing your RG, PMs & open forum with members. Re-visit those. Just suggesting here the Nagant is an interesting historical side note, not the best for learning handgunning. Denis |
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Okay, I'll find one and get back to you
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January 7, 2015, 12:36 AM | #62 |
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I hand load the rounds gas sealed using cheapy Lee .30 carbine die. The bullet is 110gr copper plated for .30 carbine. Powder is trail boss. Shoots surprisingly well.
Managed to lighten the trigger pull by bending the main spring. DA is still astrocious as supposed. The screw trick is useless. It is not doing anything but limiting the trigger rest. But revolvers require complete trigger reset. -TL |
January 7, 2015, 12:41 AM | #63 |
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Here is the deal...For the Nagant revolver you either have to purchase factory type ammo or do a bit of work to the gun. There is some book...I dont remember the title that states what you have to do. According to the book you had to turn 32-20 brass case heads so many thousands of an inch smaller. What I did is turb down the ratchet that same ammount so that
32-20 cases would chamber. To use 32-20 case I run them trhough a M1 carbine die to remove the shoulder. You can load them flush with the case mouth like factory loads but what I have done is shortended my cases so that the crimped bullet fits the cylinder so it looks like a tapered shortened .32 H&R case. Last edited by hartcreek; January 7, 2015 at 12:48 AM. Reason: photo |
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January 8, 2015, 11:20 AM | #65 |
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I've got the good dies to reload with, ammo is not an issue.
These pistols were $99 the last importation, now they've doubled in price. Good investment gun, should go higher once this run has disappeared into the great American gun market. Remember the $75 SKS and the $100 Norwegian Mauser? |
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Mine is fun. I think it's a 1940's WWII one, if I recall correctly. It was factory reconditioned and looks really good.
I'm pretty sure it shot SW 32 long just fine. It shoots okay single action, nothing to write home about. The double action is truly the worst I have felt on any handgun ever. It is cool to look at, historical, a good investment, and functional. It wouldn't be my first choice of handgun to defend myself with in an emergency, but it certainly wouldn't be the last on the list, either. Last edited by tallball; January 11, 2015 at 09:40 AM. |
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I'm kind of torn between getting one of these from AIM.
They are 2x as expensive as they one were, and appear to not come with a lanyard. Not cool. But, I wanted one at one time... I'm just totally torn up and don't know what to do. |
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It is real simple...... you can put the gas seal back on if you use the factory cases but all that bending is going to decrease case life dramatically and Star 32-20 cases are expensive enough.
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It is 0.308". I know it is smaller than the groove diameter, but it actually works the best amount all the thing I have tried. I certainly tried 32 cal, 0.312" to 0.313". They will not work for gas seal. The rounds will be too big to go into the cylinder.
Without the gas seal, the accuracy cannot be good. Nagant does not has tight throat as other revolvers. It needs the brass to guide the bullet. That's why 0.308" bullets with seal will do better than 0.312" without the seal. Also with bullets smaller than groove diameter, cast bullets don't work. They should be jacketed, plated, or powder coated. -TL |
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