What's with all the ROAs all of a sudden? - Page 2

Model12Win · December 11, 2016, 04:22 PM

I saw no ROAs at my local gun show.

Maybe I've been a bad boy, and Santa is punishing me.

roashooter · December 11, 2016, 05:26 PM

"but this one just begged to be roughhoused."

which is what you would do with a neglected gun...by a 12yo....

I took care of mine....no "roughhousing to be begged"...so I still can use it after all these years..

**4V50 Gary** · December 11, 2016, 05:58 PM

Mike - years ago I suggested to Ruger to make a cap 'n ball cylinder for their Super Blackhawks. They didn't take the suggestion.

Hawg · December 11, 2016, 07:37 PM

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"but this one just begged to be roughhoused."

which is what you would do with a neglected gun...by a 12yo....

I took care of mine....no "roughhousing to be begged"...so I still can use it after all these years..

I don't think you understand. It wasn't neglected when I got it, it was brand new and it still works just fine and will still make a mess out of a water moccasins head, altho I'm not brave enough to walk the riverbank actively hunting them now.

45 Dragoon · December 11, 2016, 08:19 PM

Gary, it just goes to show ya, they never listen to the "geniuses" in the crowd !!! (Yeah right . . . lol!!)
That's OK though, I'm fixin the problem.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Follow me on Instagram @ goonsgunworks

**4V50 Gary** · December 11, 2016, 08:25 PM

What steels (blue & stainless)?

roashooter · December 11, 2016, 09:09 PM

"I don't think you understand. It wasn't neglected when I got it, it was brand new"

I understand completely...it was brand new when you got it...the neglect is yours....as per your posting....

"I've got an old Rigarmi 58 Remington Beals I bought new in 69 when I was 12. It's been thru hell and hi water. After being severly used and abused and stored for a buncha years due to a broken loading lever It was looking pretty scruffy."

45 Dragoon · December 11, 2016, 09:25 PM

Gary, absolutely!! (Test piece and proto are blue but S.S. will be available)

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Follow me on Instagram @ goonsgunworks

Hawg · December 11, 2016, 09:45 PM

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I understand completely...it was brand new when you got it...the neglect is yours..

Oh yeah, I'm not denying it was abused and neglected. I thought you thought it was neglected when I got it and I was mistaken it's not a Beals. The point is that it still shoots as good as it ever did, probably as good as your pristine Ruger.

B.L.E. · December 13, 2016, 07:28 AM

I just like playing with black powder and muzzle loaders more than I'm into pretending I'm living in the 1860's, so the ROA suits me just fine. It's not a replica of anything, that makes it an original.
I just wish Ruger had chosen to make a .36 version on the smaller Blackhawk frame.

**4V50 Gary** · December 13, 2016, 08:29 AM

A .36 cal Ruger would be neat. It would be a bonus if it were also DA/SA with a 5" bbl, blued finish with brass grip.

roashooter · December 13, 2016, 09:30 AM

"I just wish Ruger had chosen to make a .36 version on the smaller Blackhawk frame."

do you think ruger would have called it the "New Navy"....

would be on my to buy list.....even if it was NOT period correct...

Hawg · December 13, 2016, 04:33 PM

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do you think ruger would have called it the "New Navy".

No, they would have called it the old navy like they did with their old army.

Model12Win · December 13, 2016, 06:02 PM

Or the Ruger "Navyhawk" since they love naming things after birds!!

Really though, a smaller and lighter ROA in .36 caliber (that takes proper .375" round ball, no weird .380" balls please) would QUICKLY find it's way into my herd. Add a slightly larger powder chamber over a '51, say 35-40 grains. I'd bet with some 3F Swiss powder you could get that little ball going fast.

I imagine a blued version with the adjustable sights and the walnut grip panels. 7 or 7.5" bbl please.

noelf2 · December 13, 2016, 06:07 PM

Never gonna happen!

Model12Win · December 13, 2016, 06:08 PM

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Never gonna happen!

Noelf2, if you believe in yourself, anything can happen.

roashooter · December 13, 2016, 06:11 PM

"No, they would have called it the old navy like they did with their old army."

since "Old Navy" is a trademark name for a clothing outlet.....Ruger calling a 36 that would be doubtful.....

rodwhaincamo · December 13, 2016, 06:25 PM

I'd prefer a small .36 five shot made off of the Bearcat or Single Six.

B.L.E. · December 13, 2016, 07:57 PM

With the passing of Bill Ruger, likely it will never happen. The Old Army was his idea and pet gun. The company dropped it like a hot potato when he left.

Sort of like the way Ford Motor Company had to wait until Henry I passed on before they could drop Ford's flathead V8.

Gaucho Gringo · December 14, 2016, 02:25 AM

B.L.E. very true. Founders of companies almost always have a pet project that they identify with and will hang onto come hell or high water. It must go with the territory. Once they pass it is usually the first thing to go.

December 11, 2016, 05:58 PM	#28
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	Mike - years ago I suggested to Ruger to make a cap 'n ball cylinder for their Super Blackhawks. They didn't take the suggestion. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

December 11, 2016, 08:25 PM	#31
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	What steels (blue & stainless)? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

December 13, 2016, 07:28 AM	#35
B.L.E. Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Somewhere on the Southern shore of Lake Travis, TX Posts: 2,603	I just like playing with black powder and muzzle loaders more than I'm into pretending I'm living in the 1860's, so the ROA suits me just fine. It's not a replica of anything, that makes it an original. I just wish Ruger had chosen to make a .36 version on the smaller Blackhawk frame. __________________ Hanlon's Razor "Do not invoke conspiracy as explanation when ignorance and incompetence will suffice, as conspiracy implies intelligence and organization."

December 13, 2016, 08:29 AM	#36
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	A .36 cal Ruger would be neat. It would be a bonus if it were also DA/SA with a 5" bbl, blued finish with brass grip. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

December 13, 2016, 06:07 PM	#40
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Never gonna happen! __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

December 11, 2016, 04:22 PM	#26
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	I saw no ROAs at my local gun show. Maybe I've been a bad boy, and Santa is punishing me.

December 11, 2016, 05:26 PM	#27
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	"but this one just begged to be roughhoused." which is what you would do with a neglected gun...by a 12yo.... I took care of mine....no "roughhousing to be begged"...so I still can use it after all these years..

December 11, 2016, 08:19 PM	#30
45 Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2013 Posts: 656	Gary, it just goes to show ya, they never listen to the "geniuses" in the crowd !!! (Yeah right . . . lol!!) That's OK though, I'm fixin the problem. Mike www.goonsgunworks.com Follow me on Instagram @ goonsgunworks

December 11, 2016, 09:09 PM	#32
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	"I don't think you understand. It wasn't neglected when I got it, it was brand new" I understand completely...it was brand new when you got it...the neglect is yours....as per your posting.... "I've got an old Rigarmi 58 Remington Beals I bought new in 69 when I was 12. It's been thru hell and hi water. After being severly used and abused and stored for a buncha years due to a broken loading lever It was looking pretty scruffy."

December 11, 2016, 09:25 PM	#33
45 Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2013 Posts: 656	Gary, absolutely!! (Test piece and proto are blue but S.S. will be available) Mike www.goonsgunworks.com Follow me on Instagram @ goonsgunworks

December 13, 2016, 09:30 AM	#37
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	"I just wish Ruger had chosen to make a .36 version on the smaller Blackhawk frame." do you think ruger would have called it the "New Navy".... would be on my to buy list.....even if it was NOT period correct...

December 13, 2016, 06:02 PM	#39
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Or the Ruger "Navyhawk" since they love naming things after birds!! Really though, a smaller and lighter ROA in .36 caliber (that takes proper .375" round ball, no weird .380" balls please) would QUICKLY find it's way into my herd. Add a slightly larger powder chamber over a '51, say 35-40 grains. I'd bet with some 3F Swiss powder you could get that little ball going fast. I imagine a blued version with the adjustable sights and the walnut grip panels. 7 or 7.5" bbl please.

December 13, 2016, 06:11 PM	#42
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	"No, they would have called it the old navy like they did with their old army." since "Old Navy" is a trademark name for a clothing outlet.....Ruger calling a 36 that would be doubtful.....

December 13, 2016, 06:25 PM	#43
rodwhaincamo Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,246	I'd prefer a small .36 five shot made off of the Bearcat or Single Six.

December 13, 2016, 07:57 PM	#44
B.L.E. Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Somewhere on the Southern shore of Lake Travis, TX Posts: 2,603	With the passing of Bill Ruger, likely it will never happen. The Old Army was his idea and pet gun. The company dropped it like a hot potato when he left. Sort of like the way Ford Motor Company had to wait until Henry I passed on before they could drop Ford's flathead V8. __________________ Hanlon's Razor "Do not invoke conspiracy as explanation when ignorance and incompetence will suffice, as conspiracy implies intelligence and organization."

December 14, 2016, 02:25 AM	#45
Gaucho Gringo Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 366	B.L.E. very true. Founders of companies almost always have a pet project that they identify with and will hang onto come hell or high water. It must go with the territory. Once they pass it is usually the first thing to go. __________________ 357 Taurus Gaucho, 22 Heritage RR, 2-Pietta 1858 44 NMA Remingtons, Pietta, Euroarms & ASM 36 1851 Navies, 31 Uberti 1849, 12 ga H&R Topper, 16 Ga Western Field, 43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block, 44 ASM Colt Walker, High Point C9 9mm, Winchester 1906 22, Rossi 62 22 rifle, Uberti 1860, H&A & IJ 32 S&W BreakTop, 36 Euroarms 1858, 32 H&R 04, 22mag NAA SS BP revolver, .44 Rodgers & Spencer, IJ 38 S&W BreakTop, IJ 22 Sealed 8