Winchester model 70 super grade scope mount

bulls n bucks · February 13, 2018, 01:51 PM

So I got a new Winchester model 70 super grade in 30-06 and I got a Leupold vx2 3-9:40 now I'm looking for recommendations on the best scope mount for it. I am leaning towards the Leupold mounts. And some options on alignment and lapping rings.

GeauxTide · February 13, 2018, 02:16 PM

I changed to Talley Combination Base/Rings for my 8 rifles. Superb.

fourbore · February 13, 2018, 08:24 PM

I used the Leupold one piece. That was what I had taken off another Model 70. I had rings too. I am happy with the setup. I mounted a VX-II 4-12x40. I think I have the same gun, a 30-06 and marked "super" on the floor plate. I got my pre owned.

That M70 is a pretty classy gun and nice candidate for a little better grade of mount. Tally sounds good too. The Leupold has a classic look on a classic rifle.

amflyer · February 14, 2018, 01:23 PM

I have four M70's in long action, including one rechambered to the Lott cartridge.

For the first, I bought the Leopold mounts. They fit a bit less that optimum for a Vx-II 2.5-8. About one mm of space available to fit fore and aft. Luckily, it was just right for my view, etc. The front base hangs over the action cutout by a bit. No function problems though.

For the others, I bought Talley. Two detachable and one fixed, but not the one-piece I saw referenced here. They are probably the best, but not all scopes will fit due to the spacing. I can vouch that the Conquest 3-9x40's do, with room to spare, as well as the VX-III 3.5-10's. Your Vx-II probably has available mounting room similar to the latter, but might want to double check.

Tried to do photos with photobucket, no 3rd party hosting.

T. O'Heir · February 14, 2018, 02:52 PM

Same rings and bases as any other M70. There is no 'best' anything.

jmr40 · February 14, 2018, 05:12 PM

I don't like anything that uses dovetails. Especially those with windage adjustments. Those were designed years ago to get the scope aligned with the barrel if the mounting holes were drilled improperly. That hasn't been a problem in over 50 years. If your rifle needs them use them. But a modern rifle having the mounting holes drilled improperly would be sent back to the factory. If you don't need them there are much better options.

From a practical standpoint Talley Lightweights are about as good as it gets. But if you want something nicer looking Burris Zee rings would be my choice.

Stubert · February 15, 2018, 10:39 AM

If you stick with Leupold for bases and rings, and you have any issues or questions, you only have one company to deal with. There will be no passing the buck. On a side note, I recently purchased a Win. 70 Alaskan in .375 H&H and went with Leupold QR rings on Leupold mounts, with a 2.5-8x36 vx3. I did need an offset ring for the front. I have no complaints, fit was perfect, they return to zero and are holding up to the recoil. I went with the QR because the Alaskan comes with irons.

old roper · February 15, 2018, 05:37 PM

I used Leupold 2 piece standard base and rings on model 70 30-06 with 3x9 Leupold scope. I did lap the rings with this.

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...nt=749-013-924

Lucas McCain · February 15, 2018, 06:34 PM

The only scope mounts I use any more are Leupold bases and Burris signature Rings. That is the one that utilizes the plastic ring inserts. Alignment is not a problem, no lapping required, they have rings to handle offset problems. The use of these rings has helped me keep my reticule pretty much centered regarding windage and elevation adjustments. That cuts down parallax. You also won’t see any ring marks if you should remove the scope.
I have a 375 H&H and a 300 ultra mag and have had no problem from the recoil causeing the scope to move.

disseminator · February 15, 2018, 08:24 PM

I just bought these with matching bases for my 7mmRM Model 70 and they are the best rings I have ever used and are super strong and look great too.

http://www.talleymanufacturing.com/P...ing-Matte.aspx

These can be converted to removable with the addition of the wing nut later if you desire. ( I don't on this rifle ) Get the Low model for a 40mm objective scope.

std7mag · February 15, 2018, 09:56 PM

One forum i'm on is based in Australia/ New Zealand. They have been saying about issues with the Talley's.
Not sure exactly what the issues are.

Will try to do some digging there.

Myself i use EGW bases and either Vortex Viper or Warne rings.

reynolds357 · February 16, 2018, 05:24 PM

Quote:

I changed to Talley Combination Base/Rings for my 8 rifles. Superb.

Agreed. They are about all I use for new mounts. I have changed three old mounts over to them. They are definitely my Go to mount for hunting rifles.

burrhead · February 16, 2018, 06:52 PM

If I were to spring for a Super Grade I'd use Conetrol rings for the bragging rights if for no other reason. Besides, they'd look good with the Kahles or Schmidt Bender. Go big or go home.

http://www.conetrol.com/

As it is I use Talleys.

February 13, 2018, 01:51 PM	#1
bulls n bucks Member Join Date: May 10, 2016 Posts: 28	Winchester model 70 super grade scope mount So I got a new Winchester model 70 super grade in 30-06 and I got a Leupold vx2 3-9:40 now I'm looking for recommendations on the best scope mount for it. I am leaning towards the Leupold mounts. And some options on alignment and lapping rings.

February 14, 2018, 01:23 PM	#4
amflyer Member Join Date: September 15, 2009 Posts: 43	I have four M70's in long action, including one rechambered to the Lott cartridge. For the first, I bought the Leopold mounts. They fit a bit less that optimum for a Vx-II 2.5-8. About one mm of space available to fit fore and aft. Luckily, it was just right for my view, etc. The front base hangs over the action cutout by a bit. No function problems though. For the others, I bought Talley. Two detachable and one fixed, but not the one-piece I saw referenced here. They are probably the best, but not all scopes will fit due to the spacing. I can vouch that the Conquest 3-9x40's do, with room to spare, as well as the VX-III 3.5-10's. Your Vx-II probably has available mounting room similar to the latter, but might want to double check. Tried to do photos with photobucket, no 3rd party hosting. Last edited by amflyer; February 14, 2018 at 01:32 PM.

February 14, 2018, 02:52 PM	#5
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Same rings and bases as any other M70. There is no 'best' anything. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

February 14, 2018, 05:12 PM	#6
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,808	I don't like anything that uses dovetails. Especially those with windage adjustments. Those were designed years ago to get the scope aligned with the barrel if the mounting holes were drilled improperly. That hasn't been a problem in over 50 years. If your rifle needs them use them. But a modern rifle having the mounting holes drilled improperly would be sent back to the factory. If you don't need them there are much better options. From a practical standpoint Talley Lightweights are about as good as it gets. But if you want something nicer looking Burris Zee rings would be my choice. __________________ "If you're still doing things the same way you were doing them 10 years ago, you're doing it wrong" Winston Churchill

February 15, 2018, 05:37 PM	#8
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 2,155	I used Leupold 2 piece standard base and rings on model 70 30-06 with 3x9 Leupold scope. I did lap the rings with this. https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...nt=749-013-924 __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam 1965 VFW Life member NRA Life Member

February 13, 2018, 02:16 PM	#2
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,424	I changed to Talley Combination Base/Rings for my 8 rifles. Superb.

February 13, 2018, 08:24 PM	#3
fourbore Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2015 Location: new england Posts: 1,159	I used the Leupold one piece. That was what I had taken off another Model 70. I had rings too. I am happy with the setup. I mounted a VX-II 4-12x40. I think I have the same gun, a 30-06 and marked "super" on the floor plate. I got my pre owned. That M70 is a pretty classy gun and nice candidate for a little better grade of mount. Tally sounds good too. The Leupold has a classic look on a classic rifle.

February 15, 2018, 10:39 AM	#7
Stubert Member Join Date: February 6, 2018 Location: Catskill Mtns. New York Posts: 19	If you stick with Leupold for bases and rings, and you have any issues or questions, you only have one company to deal with. There will be no passing the buck. On a side note, I recently purchased a Win. 70 Alaskan in .375 H&H and went with Leupold QR rings on Leupold mounts, with a 2.5-8x36 vx3. I did need an offset ring for the front. I have no complaints, fit was perfect, they return to zero and are holding up to the recoil. I went with the QR because the Alaskan comes with irons.

February 15, 2018, 06:34 PM	#9
Lucas McCain Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2013 Location: Callaway, MN Posts: 361	The only scope mounts I use any more are Leupold bases and Burris signature Rings. That is the one that utilizes the plastic ring inserts. Alignment is not a problem, no lapping required, they have rings to handle offset problems. The use of these rings has helped me keep my reticule pretty much centered regarding windage and elevation adjustments. That cuts down parallax. You also won’t see any ring marks if you should remove the scope. I have a 375 H&H and a 300 ultra mag and have had no problem from the recoil causeing the scope to move. __________________ If you have time to do it twice, then you have time to do it once right and put your name on it

February 15, 2018, 08:24 PM	#10
disseminator Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Location: Minnesota Posts: 960	I just bought these with matching bases for my 7mmRM Model 70 and they are the best rings I have ever used and are super strong and look great too. http://www.talleymanufacturing.com/P...ing-Matte.aspx These can be converted to removable with the addition of the wing nut later if you desire. ( I don't on this rifle ) Get the Low model for a 40mm objective scope.

February 15, 2018, 09:56 PM	#11
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	One forum i'm on is based in Australia/ New Zealand. They have been saying about issues with the Talley's. Not sure exactly what the issues are. Will try to do some digging there. Myself i use EGW bases and either Vortex Viper or Warne rings.

February 16, 2018, 06:52 PM	#13
burrhead Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 1999 Location: Chihuahuan desert, Texas Posts: 1,148	If I were to spring for a Super Grade I'd use Conetrol rings for the bragging rights if for no other reason. Besides, they'd look good with the Kahles or Schmidt Bender. Go big or go home. http://www.conetrol.com/ As it is I use Talleys. __________________ Join the GOA, SAF and the TSRA I'm offended by people that are easily offended.