Browning BPS Loading Problem

mrflusher · November 17, 2008, 01:39 AM

Howdy,
Manual states four in magazine (2 3/4") and one in chamber.
I can only get three in magazine. Is manual wrong, shotgun defective, or owner defective?

Thanks for help.

MAX100 · November 17, 2008, 05:01 AM

It probably has a mag tube plug in it to limit the capacity. Just take it out so you can get the full capacity the shotgun offers. Keep the plug in case you to go hunting with it. It should be a dowel, plastic rod or something that is limiting space.

GC

publius · November 17, 2008, 05:50 AM

If it has a plug you shouldn't be able to put 3 in the mag, only 2. 3 will get you a ticket on migratory birds.

mrflusher · November 17, 2008, 06:39 AM

Plug is removed.

BigJimP · November 17, 2008, 12:02 PM

Are you sure you're not trying to put 3" shells into it - 2 3/4" shells unfired measure about 2 1/4" - 3" shells unfired measure about 2 1/2" ....

mrflusher · November 17, 2008, 05:26 PM

Yes shells measure 2 1/4".

From manual...
T H R E E S H O T A D A P T E R / M A G A Z I N E C A PA C I T Y
The BPS shotgun, in all gauges, is delivered with the magazine three
shot adapter (plug) installed in the magazine, limiting magazine
capacity to two shells in compliance with federal migratory bird
regulations. If you do not wish to be limited to three shots — when
it is not required by law — you can remove (or reinstall) the three
shot adapter (plug) as follows:
ALWAYS WEAR PROTECTIVE SAFETY GLASSES DURING THIS OPERATION.
1 First, make certain the “safety” is in the “on safe” position and the
gun is totally unloaded. CHECK THE MAGAZINE, FEED MECHANISM
AND CHAMBER TO BE SURE THEY DO NOT CONTAIN ANY SHELLS.
2 Unscrew the magazine cap and remove it.
3 The magazine three shot adapter
lays on top of the magazine
spring retainer located in the
forward end of the magazine
tube and is only held in the
magazine tube by the magazine
cap. Simply pull the three shot
adapter out of the magazine tube
with your fingers to remove
(Figure 7). (You may also hold
the shotgun upside down to
make it slide out.)
4 Reinstall the magazine cap.With the magazine adapter removed, the
BPS pump shotgun has a total capacity of five 23⁄4" loads (four in the
magazine and one in the chamber), and a total capacity of four 3" or
31⁄2" magnum shells (three in the magazine and one in the chamber).
Magazine capacity with the three shot adapter installed is two 23⁄4",
3"or 31⁄2" shells.

BigJimP · November 17, 2008, 05:33 PM

You got me - all of my BPS's will hold 4 in the mag with the plug out / so I don't know what to tell you.

I suppose there could be something blocking it - but I'm sure you checked the inside of the mag .... I can only suggest you go back to the dealer you bought it from if its a new gun / maybe check another BPS in your area or in stock at your dealer / and see if they've got something screwed up in the installation or something. Maybe a gunsmith in your area can look at it quickly and see something ...

mrflusher · November 17, 2008, 05:55 PM

Spring retainer was jammed in magazine. A little force and its finer than frog farts now. Sorry for wasting your guys time. Thanks.

BigJimP · November 17, 2008, 06:20 PM

At least you found something / glad it was easy. Its never a waste of time.

mrflusher · November 20, 2008, 12:53 AM

I fired about two hundred rounds through shotgun with plug in. The recoil forced retainer back in magazine and led to short shell situation.

MAX100 · November 20, 2008, 01:39 AM

You should have took the mag cap off and investigated the problem before you posted.

It is like: My lawnmower won't start but I don't know why. Did you check and see if it is out of gas? NO!

GC

mrflusher · November 20, 2008, 02:38 AM

Sorry Max. I had the cap off. It just didn't dawn on me. First shotgun.

BigJimP · November 20, 2008, 11:30 AM

From my perspective, don't worry about it - I learn something new here every week ...

shortwave · November 20, 2008, 04:40 PM

mrflusher, FYI thats what TFL and its members are here for. No apologies needed

November 17, 2008, 01:39 AM	#1
mrflusher Junior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Posts: 6	Browning BPS Loading Problem Howdy, Manual states four in magazine (2 3/4") and one in chamber. I can only get three in magazine. Is manual wrong, shotgun defective, or owner defective? Thanks for help.

November 17, 2008, 05:01 AM	#2
MAX100 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: SC- at the GUN-CONNECTION Posts: 359	It probably has a mag tube plug in it to limit the capacity. Just take it out so you can get the full capacity the shotgun offers. Keep the plug in case you to go hunting with it. It should be a dowel, plastic rod or something that is limiting space. GC __________________ ==GUN CONNECTION== [email protected]

November 17, 2008, 05:50 AM	#3
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,505	If it has a plug you shouldn't be able to put 3 in the mag, only 2. 3 will get you a ticket on migratory birds. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain

November 17, 2008, 05:26 PM	#6
mrflusher Junior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Posts: 6	Yes shells measure 2 1/4". From manual... T H R E E S H O T A D A P T E R / M A G A Z I N E C A PA C I T Y The BPS shotgun, in all gauges, is delivered with the magazine three shot adapter (plug) installed in the magazine, limiting magazine capacity to two shells in compliance with federal migratory bird regulations. If you do not wish to be limited to three shots — when it is not required by law — you can remove (or reinstall) the three shot adapter (plug) as follows: ALWAYS WEAR PROTECTIVE SAFETY GLASSES DURING THIS OPERATION. 1 First, make certain the “safety” is in the “on safe” position and the gun is totally unloaded. CHECK THE MAGAZINE, FEED MECHANISM AND CHAMBER TO BE SURE THEY DO NOT CONTAIN ANY SHELLS. 2 Unscrew the magazine cap and remove it. 3 The magazine three shot adapter lays on top of the magazine spring retainer located in the forward end of the magazine tube and is only held in the magazine tube by the magazine cap. Simply pull the three shot adapter out of the magazine tube with your fingers to remove (Figure 7). (You may also hold the shotgun upside down to make it slide out.) 4 Reinstall the magazine cap.With the magazine adapter removed, the BPS pump shotgun has a total capacity of five 23⁄4" loads (four in the magazine and one in the chamber), and a total capacity of four 3" or 31⁄2" magnum shells (three in the magazine and one in the chamber). Magazine capacity with the three shot adapter installed is two 23⁄4", 3"or 31⁄2" shells. Last edited by mrflusher; November 17, 2008 at 05:35 PM.

November 20, 2008, 01:39 AM	#11
MAX100 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: SC- at the GUN-CONNECTION Posts: 359	You should have took the mag cap off and investigated the problem before you posted. It is like: My lawnmower won't start but I don't know why. Did you check and see if it is out of gas? NO! GC __________________ ==GUN CONNECTION== [email protected]

November 17, 2008, 06:39 AM	#4
mrflusher Junior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Posts: 6	Plug is removed.

November 17, 2008, 12:02 PM	#5
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Are you sure you're not trying to put 3" shells into it - 2 3/4" shells unfired measure about 2 1/4" - 3" shells unfired measure about 2 1/2" ....

November 17, 2008, 05:33 PM	#7
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	You got me - all of my BPS's will hold 4 in the mag with the plug out / so I don't know what to tell you. I suppose there could be something blocking it - but I'm sure you checked the inside of the mag .... I can only suggest you go back to the dealer you bought it from if its a new gun / maybe check another BPS in your area or in stock at your dealer / and see if they've got something screwed up in the installation or something. Maybe a gunsmith in your area can look at it quickly and see something ...

November 17, 2008, 05:55 PM	#8
mrflusher Junior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Posts: 6	Spring retainer was jammed in magazine. A little force and its finer than frog farts now. Sorry for wasting your guys time. Thanks.

November 17, 2008, 06:20 PM	#9
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	At least you found something / glad it was easy. Its never a waste of time.

November 20, 2008, 12:53 AM	#10
mrflusher Junior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Posts: 6	I fired about two hundred rounds through shotgun with plug in. The recoil forced retainer back in magazine and led to short shell situation.

November 20, 2008, 02:38 AM	#12
mrflusher Junior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Posts: 6	Sorry Max. I had the cap off. It just didn't dawn on me. First shotgun.

November 20, 2008, 11:30 AM	#13
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	From my perspective, don't worry about it - I learn something new here every week ...

November 20, 2008, 04:40 PM	#14
shortwave Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2007 Location: SOUTHEAST, OHIO Posts: 5,970	mrflusher, FYI thats what TFL and its members are here for. No apologies needed

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