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Old February 5, 2010, 11:58 PM   #1
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trailcam picture ? 's

I am considering purchasing a trail cam or two after reading about their effective use in scouting.

Save me some research time and how about some tips on features that are desirable or to avoid, or maybe even some model/mfg types.

I am particularly interested specifically in ease of use and durability.

Any SIMPLE explanations on stuff like pixels, infrared vs. ? , etc would be helpful.
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Old February 6, 2010, 09:10 AM   #2
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I have used several brands myself with some decent results & some I didn't care for. I ended up more in favor of a cheaper unit, Moultree D-40 less then a $100.00 but has most of the features that I liked in the more expensive units. They do make the same unit infared but I see no need for it as the flash does not seem to spook any deer that have come in frount of mine. I am sure others are happy with other units too but for my money the D-40 is one of the best.
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Old February 6, 2010, 10:10 AM   #3
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The disadvantage of a flash happens when a thief passes by the camera.

It makes it easy to locate and steal.

Just something to consider.

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Old February 6, 2010, 10:16 AM   #4
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Yeah, I agree with VaFisher the Moultree D40 is the best buy. Simple to operate and takes good pictures. Mine ran all last deer season, got hundreds of pictures on one set of batteries.
I also have a Bushnell infrared camera. It's a bit more difficult to use and the infrared pictures leave much to be desired.
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Old February 6, 2010, 12:00 PM   #5
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I have 7 Moultries, mostly the I40 and one I60. They add did great for about 16 months and every one of them has experienced LCD display problems. The cost to repair would be $40 per unit plus shipping as they are out of warranty. They all worked great and literally took thousands of pics each, but all have developed problems.

The Moultries had a medium length delay between sensing movement and taking the image. The timing turned out to be pretty good most of the time. I have a Stealth cam (don't remember which one) and it has a LONG delay. This seems typical for most Stealth cams. That makes the camera really only good for locations where the animals have to stop, such as at feeders, water hole, etc. Otherwise the animals have too much time to cruise through the image field before the camera takes a picture. Cameras that are too fast runs the risk of taking pictures just as the animal enters the image field and you end up with a lot of heads and half bodies.

I went with infrared cameras for night shots because there is no flash to spook the animals. If you have skiddish animals, the flash will bother them. Some will definitely take notice of the dull red glow if the infrared cameras as well, but are not nearly as likely to be startled by it.

In general, more pixels is better than less. Depending on where you set the camera and what you want to catch. A fast reaction time is much better if you are hoping to catch birds flying through or quick moving animals along a trail. Slow/long reactions are better for feeders. So I like the mid range stuff that covers both realms pretty well.

With IR cameras, the "flash" can be awfully limited. My Stealth cam projects a circle of light such that the corners of the image are dark, but it projects the light further than my Moultrie cams. The Moultries IR flash is more like a flood light and the whole image is illumated, but only good for about 40-50 feet.

In the past, I have found very good information at these sites...
http://trailcameras.net/
http://www.chasingame.com/
http://www.trailcampro.com/reviews.aspx
http://www.whitetaildeer-management-...a-reviews.html

Note that not all of these sites are completely free of biases and may be affiliated with selling the products being reviewed. Some of the information may be out of date as well. In general, don't count on the prices listed as necessarily being what you will end up paying. Most list the list price which often turns out to be more than you will end up paying, especially since cameras often go on sale.

Things to really consider are trigger times (aka delays), flash (type, amount, distance, coverage), battery types used, and features such as whether or not it has an aiming laser (very helpful but not absolutely necessary), information stamps (time, date, moon phase, temperature, camera number/designation/name) and how many shots can be taken for a given trigger. For example, the Moultries can take a picture or sequence of pictures at intervals of as little as one minute up to 30 or 45 as I recall, but may take 1-3 pictures for each trigger event. I have my cams set to take 3 pics at intervals of 1 or 2 minutes (depending on where the cam is setup). The multi-pic setting on the Moultrie will take those 3 images about 13 seconds apart. On the Stealth cam, I believe it would take up to 5 images and they were 3 seconds apart. You may want to take short videos. Cool. These eat up memory very quickly and usually aren't all that amazing. You will have silent movies unless you get a camera with a microphone. I don't see much need for movies or a mic and so I don't use the movie setting and my cameras don't have mics.
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Old February 6, 2010, 08:40 PM   #6
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I have one cuddie back that I used last year, it was my first camera and so far it has been OK. But I have read a bunch of bad reports on it. In fact I have yet to not see a bad report on any of them. It seems like they all either work or they don't, good luck.
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Old February 7, 2010, 10:55 PM   #7
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Yeah, I agree with VaFisher the Moultree D40 is the best buy. Simple to operate and takes good pictures. Mine ran all last deer season, got hundreds of pictures on one set of batteries.
I also have a Bushnell infrared camera. It's a bit more difficult to use and the infrared pictures leave much to be desired.
I have a Moultrie D40. I paid $90 for it at Academy Sports. It is the flash type. I can say that the flash doesn't spook the deer. I have gotten multiple shots of the same deer frequently. I like the flash type better than the infrared type because you retain color at night with the flash. With the infrared you just get shades of black and white at night.

These are pictures that I got with my D40.







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Old February 7, 2010, 11:05 PM   #8
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Here are some more of my pictures.



The doe in this picture was standing 8 feet from me 3 minutes after the camera took the picture. I was in my little portable blind. She never knew I was there. I was tempted to shoot it with my .45 Ruger Blackhawk but didn't because I had seen a large buck shortly before the doe but didn't get a shot at it. I was hoping that the buck might follow the doe so didn't shoot the doe. I never saw the buck again.





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Old February 7, 2010, 11:09 PM   #9
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Here is one more interesting picture.

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Old February 8, 2010, 08:20 AM   #10
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I can say that the flash doesn't spook the deer.
It may not spook all deer, but I have sat in a stand and watched them be spooked. The flash goes off and they bolt. Some come back, some don't.
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Old February 8, 2010, 12:16 PM   #11
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i have had great luck with cuddeback... had two IR's this fall and got some really nice pictures.
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Old February 8, 2010, 12:17 PM   #12
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I guess it really doesnt matter though if you get the deer to stop in front of the camera. Moultrie takes horrible moving pics and good still pics. Cuddeback does both
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Old February 9, 2010, 10:48 PM   #13
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keep'em comin'

Thanks guys, the $100 dollar or less moultrie looks good to me.

Welcome any further comments/
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