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Old December 20, 2001, 01:50 PM   #1
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Thinking about an M1 shooter. Not for plinking; I'd like good accuracy but it doesn't have to be Natl. Match. I've never owned one. Any basic advice on shopping for M1s?
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Old December 20, 2001, 02:11 PM   #2
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Old December 20, 2001, 02:21 PM   #3
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First, if you are a U.S. citizen with a clean record, go to www.odcmp.com for the best M1 bargain around. But read the requirements.

Other than that, M1's are available at gun shows and sometimes at gun shops. Original or rebuilt GI guns in good condition will go for $750-900 depending on condition. I would avoid those with new cast receivers marked "CAI" on the left side. Some new guns (or at least receivers) from Australia are now available; they are reported as not up to the standard of the wartime rifles.

Original M1 rifles have the marking on the top rear - only Springfield Armory, Winchester, H&R and International Harvestor made M1's for the U.S., Winchester only in WWII, the others in both WWII and the Korean War period. The commercial Springfield Armory made a few; these are not bad, but again not as good as the originals.

Also avoid any rifle that shows signs of welding; look along the bolt raceways and along the left side for any humps, roughness, or pitting that would indicate welding. These receivers were pieced together from the parts of receivers that were cut in half an scrapped. They may not be unsafe, but they are not as good as one that has not be so treated.

Do not believe any stories. Almost NO M1 rifles were brought back by WWII GI's. It was illegal and could (and did) earn a prison term if caught. Patton did not carry an M1; neither did Robert E. Lee or George Washington. (I bought U.S. Grant's M1 last year and it is not for sale. ;>) )

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Old December 20, 2001, 07:27 PM   #4
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Jim's close.

The original Springfiled Armory (SA) manufactured M-1 Garands starting in the early 30's through WWII (1932 thru 1945) and again from from 1952 – 1956. Winchester manufactured M-1s only during WWII (produced from 1941 – 1945). Harrington & Richardson (H&R) and International Harvester (IHC) manufactured M-1's starting in 1953 thru 1956.

The USGI Garands sold thru ODCMP are by far the best for shooting and for collecting. IMO, the CAI rifles are junk, assembled with cast receivers and out of spec/worn parts.
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Old December 21, 2001, 09:28 AM   #5
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"Do not believe any stories. Almost NO M1 rifles were brought back by WWII GI's. It was illegal and could (and did) earn a prison term if caught."



The main reason many M-1's were not stolen was they were too big to steal. 1911's were ripe for te pickings and so were carbines to a certain extent. Come to think of it 1911's were ripe during WWI for that matter. I had a close relative that "borrowed" a 1911 back in 1918 and damn if he did not forget to return it.


Jim you and I ought to compare our M1's. You have Grant's and I have Robert E. Lee's. Mine USED to belong to Grant, but John Mosby and his rangers stole it from Grant and presented it to Lee.
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Old December 21, 2001, 10:25 AM   #6
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Ha! I've got you beat, I've got the M-1 W used during his National Guard training. It was also Teddy Roosevelt's elephant gun and was used at his final 21 gun salute. It even has "Teddy's Toy" dremeled into receiver.

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