Clean powder?

Trapp · April 9, 2005, 09:26 PM

After about 250 rds today through my P97, I took it home and cleaned it. I did no cleaning during but it was spotless to begin with. I ended up with a thick caked on "grease" All around the firing pin, extractor, trigger, and other internals. Not to mention the muzzle was black instead of steel. This "grease" seemed like a lot of unburnt powder, which was also all over my shirt and face. I use IMR 4227 and AA#9. The IMR Powder was from the .44mag I was also shooting. The AA was what I used in the 45 acp loads (the 250 rounds). I am guessing the "grease" is the AA (being that it is a fine powder). I reason i believe is this because the 4227 appears in most of the same spots and it is more easily identified. Anyway I just wanted to know if there was a cleaner burning powder out there. I was told to try Lil' Gun and AA#7 and Titegroup. Any other ideas?

Robert M Boren Sr · April 9, 2005, 11:36 PM

Try the ramshot line. I haven't found any better yet. www.ramshot.com and it's temperature insensitive also.

Blue Heeler · April 10, 2005, 12:50 AM

I always use W 231 or WST don't have that problem.

HSMITH · April 10, 2005, 07:50 AM

Hodgdon Clays and Power Pistol are about as clean as I have found.

Were you shooting lead bullets? The 'grease' sounds like lube residue......

Dogjaw · April 10, 2005, 08:03 AM

2nd the Winchester powders.

Trapp · April 10, 2005, 08:22 AM

I didn't think about that lead bullet thing. I was (couldn't afford to shoot that much if I wasn't) shooting lubed lead bullets.

Russ5924 · April 10, 2005, 08:24 AM

About the cleanest I use is Titegroup even cleaner than W231

Zak Smith · April 10, 2005, 03:01 PM

I've found VV-N320 cleaner than Titegroup, but it's about 2x the price so I stick with TG, which is still WAY cleaner than Unique.

cheygriz · April 10, 2005, 03:59 PM

Is, IMHO, grosslt overrated! One is supposed to clean one's weapon after EVERY use regardless!

BigSlick · April 10, 2005, 08:59 PM

Another vote for Titegroup. The cleanest burning powder I have ever loaded.

BigSlick

April 9, 2005, 09:26 PM	#1
Trapp Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: KTN Posts: 1,221	Clean powder? After about 250 rds today through my P97, I took it home and cleaned it. I did no cleaning during but it was spotless to begin with. I ended up with a thick caked on "grease" All around the firing pin, extractor, trigger, and other internals. Not to mention the muzzle was black instead of steel. This "grease" seemed like a lot of unburnt powder, which was also all over my shirt and face. I use IMR 4227 and AA#9. The IMR Powder was from the .44mag I was also shooting. The AA was what I used in the 45 acp loads (the 250 rounds). I am guessing the "grease" is the AA (being that it is a fine powder). I reason i believe is this because the 4227 appears in most of the same spots and it is more easily identified. Anyway I just wanted to know if there was a cleaner burning powder out there. I was told to try Lil' Gun and AA#7 and Titegroup. Any other ideas? __________________ HDR Ban!? It's a shame all of my guns sank with my boat last week... Time to catch up.....like mayonnaise

April 10, 2005, 08:03 AM	#5
Dogjaw Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2001 Location: S.W. Michigan Posts: 560	2nd the Winchester powders. __________________ There are three kinds of men: 1) The ones that learn by reading. 2) The few who learn by observation. 3) The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves..........

April 10, 2005, 08:22 AM	#6
Trapp Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: KTN Posts: 1,221	I didn't think about that lead bullet thing. I was (couldn't afford to shoot that much if I wasn't) shooting lubed lead bullets. __________________ HDR Ban!? It's a shame all of my guns sank with my boat last week... Time to catch up.....like mayonnaise

April 10, 2005, 03:01 PM	#8
Zak Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 1999 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA Posts: 2,682	I've found VV-N320 cleaner than Titegroup, but it's about 2x the price so I stick with TG, which is still WAY cleaner than Unique. __________________ Zak Smith . DEMIGOD LLC . THUNDER BEAST ARMS CORP . COLORADO MULTI-GUN *My PM inbox full? Send e-mail instead.*

April 9, 2005, 11:36 PM	#2
Robert M Boren Sr Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Location: NW Montana Posts: 269	Try the ramshot line. I haven't found any better yet. www.ramshot.com and it's temperature insensitive also.

April 10, 2005, 12:50 AM	#3
Blue Heeler Junior member Join Date: October 4, 1999 Location: Queensland Posts: 1,043	I always use W 231 or WST don't have that problem.

April 10, 2005, 07:50 AM	#4
HSMITH Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2002 Posts: 2,019	Hodgdon Clays and Power Pistol are about as clean as I have found. Were you shooting lead bullets? The 'grease' sounds like lube residue......

April 10, 2005, 08:24 AM	#7
Russ5924 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2005 Posts: 1,874	About the cleanest I use is Titegroup even cleaner than W231 __________________ Russ5924

April 10, 2005, 03:59 PM	#9
cheygriz Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2002 Location: high up in the rockies Posts: 2,289	Clean Powder Is, IMHO, grosslt overrated! One is supposed to clean one's weapon after EVERY use regardless! __________________ If you think a mighty military force is expensive, wait 'til you see what a weak one costs.

April 10, 2005, 08:59 PM	#10
BigSlick Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Texas of course Posts: 277	Another vote for Titegroup. The cleanest burning powder I have ever loaded. BigSlick