Chuck Conners must hate Mossberg - Page 5

TX Hunter · February 17, 2012, 07:32 AM

Its usually just the very interesting threads that get closed.

Palmetto-Pride · February 17, 2012, 08:05 AM

I have seen threads way more interesting than this get closed before it gets past page one, usually a reference to a dead horse is the reason, if that's the case then this horse has been beat beyond recognition, in fact I bet you would need a DNA sample to even tell it was a horse......lol IMO

johnwilliamson062 · February 17, 2012, 08:13 AM

I think making it accept AR stocks is a great idea. The front rails maybe not.
Lets compare the age of those who like it to those who don't. I bet they sell a ton.

garryc · February 17, 2012, 08:13 AM

That is flat stupid. You'd think they would come out with Lever guns in 357 mag and 44 mag rather that this abortion.

rickyrick · February 17, 2012, 10:32 AM

Do you know what is most puzzling about this rifle?

Any rifle mentioned; no matter how weird, rare, ugly, hated or otherwise ........has a group of supporters that speak up and state that they own or have owned whatever rifle is the topic of scrutiny. Very puzzling indeed.

I hope they keep this thread going, its been easy on mini owners lately.

TX Hunter · February 17, 2012, 11:39 AM

Its different, but I can see how it would be usefull, I wouldnt want to hang all that nerdy stuff off of it like you see on the AR Rifles, But I think Maby a Scope and sling would be good.

Microgunner · February 17, 2012, 11:43 AM

If I remember correctly, The Rifleman's Winchester had been "modified" with a large loop so that he could spin the rifle to cock it. The kids loved it but the old timers thought it was stupid. I think Chuck Conners would appreciate the modernization of this old work horse.

TriumphGuy · February 17, 2012, 01:16 PM

I can certainly see the practicality of it. I can also see the hideousness of it. Not every gun has to be beautiful though. If I had a reason to hang a light off one side of a levergun, a laser on the other and stick a bipod underneath I'd sure as poop buy something like this before I started looking for ways to ruin a nice old Marlin or Winchester by plastering it with rails.

The Chainsaw just plain looks like a waste to me, but that Stoeger side by side could have some practical application. A light and a reflex sight on a short coach gun would make for a very comforting home defense rig.

frumious · February 17, 2012, 09:28 PM

Well I like it, but I'm the guy who wants a pistol grip for his Marlin 1895 45-70 so my opinion doesn't count for much around here

-cls

Creek Henry · February 17, 2012, 11:33 PM

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If I remember correctly, The Rifleman's Winchester had been "modified" with a large loop so that he could spin the rifle to cock it. The kids loved it but the old timers thought it was stupid. I think Chuck Conners would appreciate the modernization of this old work horse.

Three things here... 1) THAT is what that gun is missing: the lever loop!

and 2) true, Conners' gun was tricked out and he might approve of this new one except for it NOT being a Winchester

finally 3) Conners' opinion is not really the issue... it just made for a more fun thread title. Growing up, us kids lived for the opening sequence of that show (and the Lone Ranger). So, I was just having some fun at Mossy's expense. That gun might be somehow practical but it sho be ugly.

jimbob86 · February 17, 2012, 11:56 PM

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That gun might be somehow practical

Practical, my fuzzy butt..... It's got rails everywhere except where one might be useful for something other than tearing up the shooters support hand and/or snagging on everything ......

One of the finest qualities of a 30/30 lever gun is the clean lines making for fast easy handling. This just jacks that all up.

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The thing is that if we had no preconceived notion of what a lever-action rifle looked like then this rifle would just be new and cool to us

New =/= Cool. I make a new **** evey day. They are not cool. Have not kept a one of 'em.

briandg · February 18, 2012, 04:24 AM

When I first saw that ridiculous thing a while back, I worked real hard at seeing that there were a few practical points to it, and was willing to take them seriously.

Then I saw the .17 rimfire bolt action rifle with the barret style muzzle brake, and mossberg just fell straight into the compost pile in my mind.

Don't pander to the stupid people because you lose the respect of the smart ones.

gizmo688 · February 18, 2012, 12:03 PM

Im walking around the pro shop waiting on a rifle range to open up. Plenty of beautiful mosins and m1 carbines to make me want to shell out some dough. I just looked up and there is a chainsaw hanging from the ceiling for $440. What a joke.

TacticalSamurai · February 18, 2012, 06:36 PM

Needs ghost ring sights instead of a slot, and picatinney rail on top for mounting an optic.

HKGuns · February 19, 2012, 07:23 AM

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Lets compare the age of those who like it to those who don't. I bet they sell a ton.

I'll take that bet. The average age of the three or four who like it is probably 22 and I don't blame them that they don't know any better, I didn't know much at that age either. Next let's compare incomes and ability to purchase. Equals not many sales.

rickyrick · February 19, 2012, 07:32 AM

Nobody has really said that they full on like it. A few said that it might be useful to a point.

TX Hunter · February 19, 2012, 09:22 AM

Well I kind of liked it, and Im 39 Years Old, and make a very comfortable living. You theory is a little off.

BigMikey76 · February 19, 2012, 11:13 AM

^^Most theories based purely on blind assumption are "a little off." I figure the people who like it will buy it if they can afford to, and those who don't like it will not buy it. I will not be buying one, but I won't ridicule someone else who does... their purchases and their tastes are really none of my business.

BigMikey76 · February 19, 2012, 11:15 AM

By the way, what did this poor horse ever do to us?

Creek Henry · February 19, 2012, 11:29 AM

I imagine that the people who would guy this gun are the same ones that have already bought an AR15 Zombiepocolypse gun and tricked out shotgun and just GOT TO have another zombie gun... but I'm guessing.

I'm wondering if such a rig has ANY advantage for the deer hunter over a standard Marlin. With its lack of scope mount rails, I'm going to say, "not really".

TX Hunter · February 19, 2012, 11:41 AM

I dont own an AR, what makes this Rifle apealing to me, is the adjustable butsttock, and the chambering. I like the 30 30 cartridge for Youth Deer Hunting, Its 30 Calliber, with plenty of energy for the places I take Young Children Deer Hunting. I like the adjustable Buttstock because it makes it easy to fit the Rifle to the Shooter. I am thinking about Buying one of these, because I have a 7 Year old Son, my youngest, that I think will be ready in another year or two, and this Rifle would take care of alot of problems that I have had in the past.
My Children are varried in age, Ive trained up two Hunters, my oldest Son, and My Daughtor, I would have liked to have had this rifle when I started them, I have had to cut a good looking stock a couple of times. Just looking on the bright side. It would be great if they could just sell the Buttstock by itself, and It could be used when needed. But I think kids would kind of like the rest of the Buck Rogers looking stuff on the Gun.

Jack O'Conner · February 19, 2012, 05:18 PM

Chuck Conners died 20 years ago and hasn't been heard from since.

Jack

jimbob86 · February 19, 2012, 05:23 PM

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Don't pander to the stupid people because you lose the respect of the smart ones.

Aye, but the stupid ones are SOOOO much easier to part from their money!

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Lets compare the age of those who like it to those who don't. I bet they sell a ton.

I'll take that bet. The average age of the three or four who like it is probably 22 and I don't blame them that they don't know any better, I didn't know much at that age either. Next let's compare incomes and ability to purchase. Equals not many sales.

On the contrary: 21 year olds that don't know any better have far more disposable income than folks with kids, multiple car payments, and a mortgage..... and it's not just 21 year olds: I submit to you that there are quite a few 30-something adolescents out there who don't have near the demands on their finances that those married with children do....

HKGuns · February 19, 2012, 08:33 PM

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On the contrary: 21 year olds that don't know any better have far more disposable income than folks with kids, multiple car payments, and a mortgage..... and it's not just 21 year olds: I submit to you that there are quite a few 30-something adolescents out there who don't have near the demands on their finances that those married with children do....

Point taken Jimbob.... gnight mary-ellen!

BigBadPigg · February 20, 2012, 12:35 AM

That is undoubtfully the ugliest gun I have ever seen! Haa if I could get over its looks (not very likely) I think it would fill its role pretty well! What's bad about a somewhat powerfull round in a reliable lever action for home defense type stuff that you can mount a light on. then again it is slow to reload!

February 17, 2012, 07:32 AM	#101
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	Palmeto Pride Its usually just the very interesting threads that get closed.

February 17, 2012, 08:05 AM	#102
Palmetto-Pride Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,071	I have seen threads way more interesting than this get closed before it gets past page one, usually a reference to a dead horse is the reason, if that's the case then this horse has been beat beyond recognition, in fact I bet you would need a DNA sample to even tell it was a horse......lol IMO __________________ “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” -Margaret Thatcher-

February 17, 2012, 10:32 AM	#105
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,237	Do you know what is most puzzling about this rifle? Any rifle mentioned; no matter how weird, rare, ugly, hated or otherwise ........has a group of supporters that speak up and state that they own or have owned whatever rifle is the topic of scrutiny. Very puzzling indeed. I hope they keep this thread going, its been easy on mini owners lately. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

February 17, 2012, 11:43 AM	#107
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	Chuck Conners must hate Mossberg If I remember correctly, The Rifleman's Winchester had been "modified" with a large loop so that he could spin the rifle to cock it. The kids loved it but the old timers thought it was stupid. I think Chuck Conners would appreciate the modernization of this old work horse. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

February 18, 2012, 06:36 PM	#114
TacticalSamurai Member Join Date: April 2, 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 22	Needs Improvement Needs ghost ring sights instead of a slot, and picatinney rail on top for mounting an optic.

February 17, 2012, 08:13 AM	#103
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I think making it accept AR stocks is a great idea. The front rails maybe not. Lets compare the age of those who like it to those who don't. I bet they sell a ton.

February 17, 2012, 08:13 AM	#104
garryc Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2005 Posts: 2,536	That is flat stupid. You'd think they would come out with Lever guns in 357 mag and 44 mag rather that this abortion.

February 17, 2012, 11:39 AM	#106
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	Its different, but I can see how it would be usefull, I wouldnt want to hang all that nerdy stuff off of it like you see on the AR Rifles, But I think Maby a Scope and sling would be good.

February 17, 2012, 01:16 PM	#108
TriumphGuy Senior Member Join Date: October 5, 2009 Posts: 559	I can certainly see the practicality of it. I can also see the hideousness of it. Not every gun has to be beautiful though. If I had a reason to hang a light off one side of a levergun, a laser on the other and stick a bipod underneath I'd sure as poop buy something like this before I started looking for ways to ruin a nice old Marlin or Winchester by plastering it with rails. The Chainsaw just plain looks like a waste to me, but that Stoeger side by side could have some practical application. A light and a reflex sight on a short coach gun would make for a very comforting home defense rig.

February 17, 2012, 09:28 PM	#109
frumious Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2009 Location: Carrollton TX Posts: 521	Well I like it, but I'm the guy who wants a pistol grip for his Marlin 1895 45-70 so my opinion doesn't count for much around here -cls

February 18, 2012, 04:24 AM	#112
briandg Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2010 Posts: 5,468	When I first saw that ridiculous thing a while back, I worked real hard at seeing that there were a few practical points to it, and was willing to take them seriously. Then I saw the .17 rimfire bolt action rifle with the barret style muzzle brake, and mossberg just fell straight into the compost pile in my mind. Don't pander to the stupid people because you lose the respect of the smart ones.

February 18, 2012, 12:03 PM	#113
gizmo688 Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2011 Posts: 116	Im walking around the pro shop waiting on a rifle range to open up. Plenty of beautiful mosins and m1 carbines to make me want to shell out some dough. I just looked up and there is a chainsaw hanging from the ceiling for $440. What a joke.

February 19, 2012, 07:32 AM	#116
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,237	Nobody has really said that they full on like it. A few said that it might be useful to a point. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

February 19, 2012, 09:22 AM	#117
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	HK Guns Well I kind of liked it, and Im 39 Years Old, and make a very comfortable living. You theory is a little off.

February 19, 2012, 11:13 AM	#118
BigMikey76 Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 981	^^Most theories based purely on blind assumption are "a little off." I figure the people who like it will buy it if they can afford to, and those who don't like it will not buy it. I will not be buying one, but I won't ridicule someone else who does... their purchases and their tastes are really none of my business. __________________ Some people are like Slinkies - not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

February 19, 2012, 11:15 AM	#119
BigMikey76 Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 981	By the way, what did this poor horse ever do to us? __________________ Some people are like Slinkies - not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

February 19, 2012, 11:29 AM	#120
Creek Henry Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 514	I imagine that the people who would guy this gun are the same ones that have already bought an AR15 Zombiepocolypse gun and tricked out shotgun and just GOT TO have another zombie gun... but I'm guessing. I'm wondering if such a rig has ANY advantage for the deer hunter over a standard Marlin. With its lack of scope mount rails, I'm going to say, "not really".

February 19, 2012, 11:41 AM	#121
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	Creek Henry I dont own an AR, what makes this Rifle apealing to me, is the adjustable butsttock, and the chambering. I like the 30 30 cartridge for Youth Deer Hunting, Its 30 Calliber, with plenty of energy for the places I take Young Children Deer Hunting. I like the adjustable Buttstock because it makes it easy to fit the Rifle to the Shooter. I am thinking about Buying one of these, because I have a 7 Year old Son, my youngest, that I think will be ready in another year or two, and this Rifle would take care of alot of problems that I have had in the past. My Children are varried in age, Ive trained up two Hunters, my oldest Son, and My Daughtor, I would have liked to have had this rifle when I started them, I have had to cut a good looking stock a couple of times. Just looking on the bright side. It would be great if they could just sell the Buttstock by itself, and It could be used when needed. But I think kids would kind of like the rest of the Buck Rogers looking stuff on the Gun.

February 19, 2012, 05:18 PM	#122
Jack O'Conner Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Manatee County, Florida Posts: 1,976	Chuck Conners died 20 years ago and hasn't been heard from since. Jack __________________ Fire up the grill! Deer hunting IS NOT catch and release.

February 20, 2012, 12:35 AM	#125
BigBadPigg Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 79	That is undoubtfully the ugliest gun I have ever seen! Haa if I could get over its looks (not very likely) I think it would fill its role pretty well! What's bad about a somewhat powerfull round in a reliable lever action for home defense type stuff that you can mount a light on. then again it is slow to reload!