reciever clip notch

jim10017 · June 28, 2006, 10:31 AM

Does anyone know if there is anyone who can mill a clip notch ala 98 mauser in a bolt gun reciever?

Mike in Michigan · June 28, 2006, 11:43 AM

1. Anything is possible.
2. Specifically, what make & model rifle are you working with?
3. What is your intended purpose for doing so?

jim10017 · June 28, 2006, 12:21 PM

I wanted to be able to reload with stripper clips like a mauser.

Scorch · June 28, 2006, 12:42 PM

Someone used to make bolt-on stripper guides for Model 70 and Rem 700, but I can't remember who. Check Brownells.

**Unclenick** · June 28, 2006, 03:03 PM

Jim10017,

It would help if you would say what model rifle it is? The answer to this kind of question is going to be model specific, and my bill with the Psychic Hotline has already reached its budget limit for this month.

Nick

Harry Bonar · June 28, 2006, 07:27 PM

Dear Shooter:
I wouldn't do it - in the Mauser this is generally the place where if dropped or bent in inletting it will crack.
If it was me I'd just get a mauser - the 8X57JS is a very good cartridge!
Harry B.

tINY · June 29, 2006, 03:53 PM

Are you talking about cracked receiver, Harry?

-tINY

Harry Bonar · June 29, 2006, 05:37 PM

Dear Sir:
Yes, I am talking about a POSSIBLY cracked reciever at the stripper clip notch in the 98 Mauser, or, one milled in a reciever that does not already have one in it.
Stock-makers have, during inletting improperly, cracked a 98 reciever at just that place.
Or, on a very hard reciever if droppen it would crack at that place.
I don't care if someone does it, it's just that that weakens the reciever.
Harry B.

James K · June 30, 2006, 03:57 PM

Jim, are you talking about a clip guide or the thumb notch in the sidewall? I think Harry is talking about the thumb notch, as I have never heard of a Mauser receiver cracking at the clip guide and I don't see any way improper inletting could affect that area.

But there is another consideration. With the possible exception of the Remington Model 700, most sporting receivers are not thick enough at that point to allow a guide with proper clip support. And of course, you could not use clips with a scope. And you would probably want to cut a thumb notch, which could weaken the sidewall as Harry says.

A better approach might be to find a decent Mauser and sporterize it; then you would have the clip guide and notch with no problem.

Jim

tINY · June 30, 2006, 06:53 PM

Cracking a steel receiver at the thumb cut-out with a walnut stock. I don't think I could tighten the action screws that much without a serious breaker bar.....

I have heard of the stocks cracking at the rear of the receiver.

Anyway - I'll go with Jim - the Mauser is probably the way to go. Get a peep sight and call it good.

-tINY

Harry Bonar · June 30, 2006, 08:27 PM

Dear Sirs:
No. I'm not talking about the stripper clip upper but about the thumb cut out on the left side of the reciever and in DeHass's book he has an illustration of one broken there and he, himself, had dropped one on the floor and broke it there (at the thumb cut out) this is what the gentleman wants a cut-out.
Years ago, in inletting into a blank I also cracked the reciever directly under the thumb cut out and had to weld it back.
I've heard of smiths welding up the thumb cut out on a Mauser but never milling one in. If you did get one milled in (easilly done) then you must make some provision for recieving the stipper clip itself.
I think the idea of sticking with the Mauser with reciever sights is excellent!
The Germans loaded the 8X57JS at 50,000 cup - the U.S. loads at 35,000 cup. due to the .318 dia of the "Commission Rifle." The Turks, I have heard loads the hottest at 50,000 cup!
This makes the 8X57JS a formidible cartridge as loaded by the Germans.
Harry B.

June 28, 2006, 10:31 AM	#1
jim10017 Member Join Date: March 26, 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 25	reciever clip notch Does anyone know if there is anyone who can mill a clip notch ala 98 mauser in a bolt gun reciever?

June 28, 2006, 11:43 AM	#2
Mike in Michigan Member Join Date: May 18, 2004 Posts: 34	Stripper clip notch 1. Anything is possible. 2. Specifically, what make & model rifle are you working with? 3. What is your intended purpose for doing so?

June 28, 2006, 12:42 PM	#4
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Someone used to make bolt-on stripper guides for Model 70 and Rem 700, but I can't remember who. Check Brownells. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

June 28, 2006, 03:03 PM	#5
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Jim10017, It would help if you would say what model rifle it is? The answer to this kind of question is going to be model specific, and my bill with the Psychic Hotline has already reached its budget limit for this month. Nick __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

June 28, 2006, 07:27 PM	#6
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	clip notch Dear Shooter: I wouldn't do it - in the Mauser this is generally the place where if dropped or bent in inletting it will crack. If it was me I'd just get a mauser - the 8X57JS is a very good cartridge! Harry B.

June 28, 2006, 12:21 PM	#3
jim10017 Member Join Date: March 26, 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 25	I wanted to be able to reload with stripper clips like a mauser.

June 29, 2006, 03:53 PM	#7
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	Are you talking about cracked receiver, Harry? -tINY

June 29, 2006, 05:37 PM	#8
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	clip notch Dear Sir: Yes, I am talking about a POSSIBLY cracked reciever at the stripper clip notch in the 98 Mauser, or, one milled in a reciever that does not already have one in it. Stock-makers have, during inletting improperly, cracked a 98 reciever at just that place. Or, on a very hard reciever if droppen it would crack at that place. I don't care if someone does it, it's just that that weakens the reciever. Harry B.

June 30, 2006, 03:57 PM	#9
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Jim, are you talking about a clip guide or the thumb notch in the sidewall? I think Harry is talking about the thumb notch, as I have never heard of a Mauser receiver cracking at the clip guide and I don't see any way improper inletting could affect that area. But there is another consideration. With the possible exception of the Remington Model 700, most sporting receivers are not thick enough at that point to allow a guide with proper clip support. And of course, you could not use clips with a scope. And you would probably want to cut a thumb notch, which could weaken the sidewall as Harry says. A better approach might be to find a decent Mauser and sporterize it; then you would have the clip guide and notch with no problem. Jim

June 30, 2006, 06:53 PM	#10
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	Cracking a steel receiver at the thumb cut-out with a walnut stock. I don't think I could tighten the action screws that much without a serious breaker bar..... I have heard of the stocks cracking at the rear of the receiver. Anyway - I'll go with Jim - the Mauser is probably the way to go. Get a peep sight and call it good. -tINY

June 30, 2006, 08:27 PM	#11
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	clip notch Dear Sirs: No. I'm not talking about the stripper clip upper but about the thumb cut out on the left side of the reciever and in DeHass's book he has an illustration of one broken there and he, himself, had dropped one on the floor and broke it there (at the thumb cut out) this is what the gentleman wants a cut-out. Years ago, in inletting into a blank I also cracked the reciever directly under the thumb cut out and had to weld it back. I've heard of smiths welding up the thumb cut out on a Mauser but never milling one in. If you did get one milled in (easilly done) then you must make some provision for recieving the stipper clip itself. I think the idea of sticking with the Mauser with reciever sights is excellent! The Germans loaded the 8X57JS at 50,000 cup - the U.S. loads at 35,000 cup. due to the .318 dia of the "Commission Rifle." The Turks, I have heard loads the hottest at 50,000 cup! This makes the 8X57JS a formidible cartridge as loaded by the Germans. Harry B.