Best "hot" .380 ammo? - Page 3

doza615 · October 30, 2009, 10:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDpbp...layer_embedded

doza615 · October 30, 2009, 10:07 PM

Sorry this one is better. Also we don't know if they're using .380
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaXcX...eature=related

DasFriek · October 30, 2009, 10:08 PM

I just went with Hornady Critical Defense 9mm in my new PPS,but would love some Ranger T also.In any caliber matter of fact,its a great looking round every time i see it being tested.But sadly if im ever gonna get my hands on any ill have to order it off the net.

I will admit i cheeped out on my .380 carry ammo.I had the choice of the $35 box of DPX or a $22 box of Gold Dots.Had it been anything less than GD's tho i would have paid for the DPX,its just the GD's are great ammo and the DPX wasn't worth me paying $13 more for them.

Another point also.I know the GD's and the DPX are well respected as being reliable in expansion.But in a .380 i don't feel its all that bad if one doesn't open up.Any larger caliber it would make a BIG difference imo.

A .380 that doesn't expand may barely exit out the other side depending on what it hits.Tho not wasting much energy if it exits,but still doing less damage.A 9mm that exits unexpanded is a big waste of energy and will have considerably less damage than a .380 that did expand.

As you can tell im no big number or fact kinda guy,i just go by what i read,see and feel.But i try and stay realistic and accurate.

Water-Man · October 30, 2009, 11:06 PM

Double Tap 95gr. FMJ.

Bill DeShivs · October 31, 2009, 01:48 AM

"but that flies in the face of their decades long popularity, was the 1903 Colt a bad self defense choice for Teddy Roosevelt?"

No, but that is all that was available then. In the 1960s, when hollowpoint ammunition was coming into it's own, the .32 and .380 were considered substandard because they were only available in FMJ. Now that good expanding ammunition is available the calibers are considered viable once again. Then the "FBI penetration recommendations" came out and were misinterpreted by a lot of people. These same people are now recommending FMJ on bad information!

Bill DeShivs · October 31, 2009, 01:55 AM

" cant comment on .32 or .25 as i find them useless,seriously they are.A .380 can be had in the same size any .22 .25 .32 gun is made.
But that doesnt mean i think the world of .380,its just barely acceptable in my book."

There is not a lot of difference between .32 acp and .380.
Besides, many people already have a .25 or .32 and don't want to go buy a new .380. Shouldn't they be afforded modern ammunition, too?
The LCP and P3AT are locked breech guns that are capable of handling the hottest loads-even though the manufacturers recommend against it, and it WILL wear the gun faster. A solid copper bullet will not expand at handgun velocities.

LightningJoe · October 31, 2009, 10:13 AM

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You are entitled to your opinion, but it's wrong.

You're not entitled to an opinion until you can provide a cogent explanation.

comn-cents · October 31, 2009, 11:33 AM

LightningJoe "You're not entitled to an opinion":barf::barf:

WOW!

LightningJoe · October 31, 2009, 02:16 PM

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LightningJoe "You're not entitled to an opinion"

WOW!

Not if you don't have any reasoning. If your opinions don't have anything behind them, they're not worth anything. Just listen.

Renfield · October 31, 2009, 02:48 PM

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No, but that is all that was available then. In the 1960s, when hollowpoint ammunition was coming into it's own, the .32 and .380 were considered substandard

I wonder what sort of ammunition John Moses Browning himself carried in his
.32ACP

comn-cents · October 31, 2009, 03:09 PM

LightningJoe "Not if you don't have any reasoning. If your opinions don't have anything behind them, they're not worth anything. Just listen".

No it's an opinion, No one has to justify their OPINION to anyone. The END!

LightningJoe · October 31, 2009, 03:25 PM

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No it's an opinion, No one has to justify their OPINION to anyone. The END!

Ha ha haaa!

amd6547 · October 31, 2009, 03:38 PM

I sometimes carry a Browning 1910/55 380 (sometimes? Heck, it is in my belt right now!).
I have yet to try any JHP's in it, but I am perfectly satisfied with FMJ's...My Browning points like a finger, and I want penetration in this caliber. In fact, I sometimes carry a pistol in 9mm makarov caliber (CZ82 or P64), and I use FMJ in that, also.
I will never try Buffalo ammo, due to the ridiculous price. I may order some DoubleTap, though. Their ammo is high performance, and priced much more reasonably. I have had great results in the other calibers I have bought from them.

October 30, 2009, 10:03 PM	#51
doza615 Junior Member Join Date: October 28, 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 10	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDpbp...layer_embedded __________________ A constitution of government, once changed from freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. John Adams

October 30, 2009, 10:07 PM	#52
doza615 Junior Member Join Date: October 28, 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 10	This ones better Sorry this one is better. Also we don't know if they're using .380 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaXcX...eature=related __________________ A constitution of government, once changed from freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. John Adams

October 31, 2009, 01:48 AM	#55
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,985	"but that flies in the face of their decades long popularity, was the 1903 Colt a bad self defense choice for Teddy Roosevelt?" No, but that is all that was available then. In the 1960s, when hollowpoint ammunition was coming into it's own, the .32 and .380 were considered substandard because they were only available in FMJ. Now that good expanding ammunition is available the calibers are considered viable once again. Then the "FBI penetration recommendations" came out and were misinterpreted by a lot of people. These same people are now recommending FMJ on bad information! __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

October 31, 2009, 01:55 AM	#56
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,985	" cant comment on .32 or .25 as i find them useless,seriously they are.A .380 can be had in the same size any .22 .25 .32 gun is made. But that doesnt mean i think the world of .380,its just barely acceptable in my book." There is not a lot of difference between .32 acp and .380. Besides, many people already have a .25 or .32 and don't want to go buy a new .380. Shouldn't they be afforded modern ammunition, too? The LCP and P3AT are locked breech guns that are capable of handling the hottest loads-even though the manufacturers recommend against it, and it WILL wear the gun faster. A solid copper bullet will not expand at handgun velocities. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

October 31, 2009, 11:33 AM	#58
comn-cents Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2008 Location: Pac.N.W. Posts: 1,804	*LightningJoe* "You're not entitled to an opinion":barf::barf: WOW! __________________ Be Smarter Than A Bore-Snake!

October 30, 2009, 10:08 PM	#53
DasFriek Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2009 Posts: 891	I just went with Hornady Critical Defense 9mm in my new PPS,but would love some Ranger T also.In any caliber matter of fact,its a great looking round every time i see it being tested.But sadly if im ever gonna get my hands on any ill have to order it off the net. I will admit i cheeped out on my .380 carry ammo.I had the choice of the $35 box of DPX or a $22 box of Gold Dots.Had it been anything less than GD's tho i would have paid for the DPX,its just the GD's are great ammo and the DPX wasn't worth me paying $13 more for them. Another point also.I know the GD's and the DPX are well respected as being reliable in expansion.But in a .380 i don't feel its all that bad if one doesn't open up.Any larger caliber it would make a BIG difference imo. A .380 that doesn't expand may barely exit out the other side depending on what it hits.Tho not wasting much energy if it exits,but still doing less damage.A 9mm that exits unexpanded is a big waste of energy and will have considerably less damage than a .380 that did expand. As you can tell im no big number or fact kinda guy,i just go by what i read,see and feel.But i try and stay realistic and accurate.

October 30, 2009, 11:06 PM	#54
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	Double Tap 95gr. FMJ.

October 31, 2009, 03:09 PM	#61
comn-cents Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2008 Location: Pac.N.W. Posts: 1,804	*LightningJoe* "Not if you don't have any reasoning. If your opinions don't have anything behind them, they're not worth anything. Just listen". No it's an opinion, No one has to justify their OPINION to anyone. The END! __________________ Be Smarter Than A Bore-Snake!

October 31, 2009, 03:38 PM	#63
amd6547 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Posts: 2,313	I sometimes carry a Browning 1910/55 380 (sometimes? Heck, it is in my belt right now!). I have yet to try any JHP's in it, but I am perfectly satisfied with FMJ's...My Browning points like a finger, and I want penetration in this caliber. In fact, I sometimes carry a pistol in 9mm makarov caliber (CZ82 or P64), and I use FMJ in that, also. I will never try Buffalo ammo, due to the ridiculous price. I may order some DoubleTap, though. Their ammo is high performance, and priced much more reasonably. I have had great results in the other calibers I have bought from them. __________________ The past is gone...the future may never happen. Be Here Now.