New Pedersoli 2 Band Enfield with rust in barrel.

chasep255 · February 21, 2018, 08:42 PM

I just got a new pedersoli 2 band 1858 enfield from dixie gun works. It looked real nice out of the box except for some rust on the ramrod which I didn't mind since I was going to replace it with a brass rod anyway. Upon further inspection I noticed that the trigger would sometimes get stuck down and the sear not engage the tumbler. I was able to fix this by slightly loosening some screws in the trigger. The next day I brought it to the range and with 50gr FFg behind a 530 grain RCBS mini I was able to shoot 1.5" groups at 50 yards. The groups we about a foot high and 6" to the left but it seemed very accurate. I thought I had a really good gun which just needed a higher dovetail front sight to get zeroed. When I got home I went to clean the gun and I noticed a huge rusty spot inside the bore. The rest of the barrel was perfect looking except for a giant rusty spot on the roof of the barrel. I suppose I didn't notice it at first since I never looked into the bore upside down before.

I called dixie and they are willing to accept a return even though I already fired it. I could probably just keep it since it shot well, but I really just don't want a new gun with such a major blemish. Has anyone else owned a pedersoli 2 band enfield, and did yours have any issues? Should I try to get a replacement pedersoli enfield or go with something else? Any suggestions?

Slamfire · February 21, 2018, 10:57 PM

Send it back. Don't accept a new rifle barrel with rust on the inside. Yes, you want to keep it, you might be getting attached to the thing, but, don't get attached to the thing. Send it back, and ask for something in return that has nice wood, sights aligned, good trigger, basically hand picked to your specifications. You might get it, because they understand how disappointed you are. And then you will be happier that you got a better rifle and one that did not have a rusty barrel.

maillemaker · February 23, 2018, 12:47 PM

That is not a rusty spot!

That is discoloration from when they soldered the front sight on. My Armisport 1842 has the same discoloration on the barrel from the bayonet lug being soldered on.

I bet if you used a bore scope and looked where your bayonet lug is soldered on further down the barrel, you'll see the same thing.

This is not a problem for the gun. Keep it and shoot it.

Steve

toot44 · February 23, 2018, 02:55 PM

mine is the same, site and bayonet lug. not to worry, does not effect my groups.

chasep255 · February 23, 2018, 05:43 PM

That is great to hear. I did notice that area has a rougher texture when I ran a qtip over it. Is that normal?

Model12Win · February 26, 2018, 02:00 AM

Just chuck some 0000 steel wool on a cleaning brush and scrub the bore with a liberal amount of oil. It will knock any surface rust out as if it weren't even there anymore. It would be a serious waste of time to send it back. You do not have an issue, these damn things are made in Italy and who knows how long it could have sat in some warehouse or dock. Do what I'm saying and smile, you have a good rifle.

maillemaker · February 27, 2018, 09:48 PM

You'll likely never polish it out without damaging the rifling. And, it's not a result of sitting in a warehouse - it's oxide that formed during the high heat of the soldering on of the sight and bayonet lugs.

Here's my Pedersoli P58, just like yours. Pardon the dust, this thing doesn't get shot much:

Here's my Armisport M1842 where the bayonet lug was soldered on. This one gets shot a lot in competition:

If I haven't worn the finish out of the smoothbore, it's never coming out.

Steve

drobs · February 27, 2018, 10:26 PM

So Chasep225 how does that gun shoot?

chasep255 · February 28, 2018, 08:48 PM

I managed to get 1.5" at 50 yards. I loaded with 50gr of goex 2F behind a 530 grain RCBS mini. I just need to get a new front sight since I am 9" high and 6" to the left.

February 21, 2018, 10:57 PM	#2
Slamfire Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Posts: 5,261	Send it back. Don't accept a new rifle barrel with rust on the inside. Yes, you want to keep it, you might be getting attached to the thing, but, don't get attached to the thing. Send it back, and ask for something in return that has nice wood, sights aligned, good trigger, basically hand picked to your specifications. You might get it, because they understand how disappointed you are. And then you will be happier that you got a better rifle and one that did not have a rusty barrel. __________________ If I'm not shooting, I'm reloading.

February 27, 2018, 10:26 PM	#8
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	So Chasep225 how does that gun shoot? __________________ NRA Life Member

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February 23, 2018, 12:47 PM	#3
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	That is not a rusty spot! That is discoloration from when they soldered the front sight on. My Armisport 1842 has the same discoloration on the barrel from the bayonet lug being soldered on. I bet if you used a bore scope and looked where your bayonet lug is soldered on further down the barrel, you'll see the same thing. This is not a problem for the gun. Keep it and shoot it. Steve

February 23, 2018, 02:55 PM	#4
toot44 Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Posts: 83	mine is the same, site and bayonet lug. not to worry, does not effect my groups.

February 23, 2018, 05:43 PM	#5
chasep255 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 727	That is great to hear. I did notice that area has a rougher texture when I ran a qtip over it. Is that normal?

February 26, 2018, 02:00 AM	#6
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Just chuck some 0000 steel wool on a cleaning brush and scrub the bore with a liberal amount of oil. It will knock any surface rust out as if it weren't even there anymore. It would be a serious waste of time to send it back. You do not have an issue, these damn things are made in Italy and who knows how long it could have sat in some warehouse or dock. Do what I'm saying and smile, you have a good rifle.

February 27, 2018, 09:48 PM	#7
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	You'll likely never polish it out without damaging the rifling. And, it's not a result of sitting in a warehouse - it's oxide that formed during the high heat of the soldering on of the sight and bayonet lugs. Here's my Pedersoli P58, just like yours. Pardon the dust, this thing doesn't get shot much: Here's my Armisport M1842 where the bayonet lug was soldered on. This one gets shot a lot in competition: If I haven't worn the finish out of the smoothbore, it's never coming out. Steve

February 28, 2018, 08:48 PM	#9
chasep255 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 727	I managed to get 1.5" at 50 yards. I loaded with 50gr of goex 2F behind a 530 grain RCBS mini. I just need to get a new front sight since I am 9" high and 6" to the left.