Savage 219 b 30-30 Broke firing pin

Lakota · April 30, 2014, 05:46 AM

Well I took that sweet 219 to the range the other day to try it out. Put on my ear plugs and safety glasses. Lock and load one round 30-30. Tucked her into my shoulder real nice and got cross hair on target took a breath let some out and squeezed the trigger and click

let it sit for a few. Open the breach round flew out about 6' behind me. Picked it up and no firing pin mark.
Does any one know how and if it is hard to fix. I ordered a new pin but I don't know if I should attempt to fix it or have a Smith do it.

PetahW · April 30, 2014, 09:48 AM

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You've found out why the Savage 219/220 should never be dry-fired...............

The FP's are not hard to change (I got several from Numrich), but does take a little skill & manual dexterity.

Remove the barrel, forend & buttstock (throughbolt under the buttplate/pad).

Ensure the action is cocked, or cock it via levering the cocking rod next to the forward action sidewall "up".

The cocking will expose a small hole through the rearmost end of the mainspring strut - which should be temporarily pinned, before pulling the trigger to release the MS tension.

Remove the small FP retainer ( side of the upper action, even with the FP hole in the breechface), R&R the FP, remove the MS strut pin & re-cock the action.

ALWAYS "prove" the repair via snapping the FP/trigger on a primed/empty cartridge, since AFAIK, there are no .30-30 (or .22H) snap caps.

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Lakota · April 30, 2014, 11:50 AM

Petah

Thanks again. It seams you are the only one that knows any thing about these little rifles. I didn't dry fire it, but I got it at a pawn shop and there ain't no telling how many times it had been dry fired. I actually don't dry fire any of my guns. I guess I should have gone over it a little closer. I was just so intrigued with it and to get it for $125.00 I never thought to look that close. I did order two pins from Numrich yesterday. I have another question My Stevens 94c 410 receiver, accepts and locks in the barrel from the savage 219b and fires a empty 30-30 case should they be interchangeable.? and is it safe.

Clark · April 30, 2014, 04:02 PM

I do not have a 219B, but I do have some 219 rifles that I like and a 219L that I dislike.
Taking the 219L apart to replace the firing pin is ok, getting the poorly designed and poorly made sheet metal parts back into place is a frustrating experience.

Lakota · April 30, 2014, 04:50 PM

Thanks Clark
The diagram is nice but there are a bunch of numbers that don't say what parts they are. But believe me I do appreciate the cutaway to see what it looks like from the side. Petah said something about a small hole in through the rearmost end of the main spring strut. But I am not sure which is the main spring strut. I have looked all over for a small hole but I can't find it.

Thanks I do appreciate any help.
Whip

Clark · April 30, 2014, 07:01 PM

Here are the names of those parts.

Lakota · April 30, 2014, 07:20 PM

Thanks Clark

I truly appreciate yours and Pethas input. I will let y'all know how it works out.

PetahW · May 1, 2014, 11:52 AM

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The MS strut is the straight rod that the MS is wrapped around, which keeps MS from bending into a curve/etc during cocking/compression.

If the MS strut on your M219 is lacking the little hole I referred to, just cock the rifle (aka" compress the MS) and use a drill bit or something else to hold the MS in the compressed condition while switching out the FP.

Buy a Lone Ranger mask - you stole that 219B.

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Lakota · May 1, 2014, 01:55 PM

Hay Petah
Thanks for the drill bit idea. A guy on another forum has a Vintage Weaver K 10 scope with mounts and rings. I bought it for $100.00 + $10.00 shipping. I hope I did as well on the scope as I did on the rifle. let me know what y'all think. You and Clark have been a great help so far. I can't wait to get it all together and try it out.

Clark · May 1, 2014, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Lakota
$125.00

Quote:

PetahW .
Buy a Lone Ranger mask - you stole that 219B.

I have bought 4 of them:
$130 2/13/2003 Sav 219L-D 30-30 made in 1965 at gunshow
$150 2/12/2012 Sav 219 30-30 made in 1946 at gunshow
$275 1/19/2013 Sav 219 30-30 with 16 ga barrel and scope made in 1940 at gun show
$125 12/20/2013 Sav 219 30-30 with 12 ga barrels made in 1945 at pawn shop

For what you get, they are a lot of gun.

Lakota · May 1, 2014, 02:02 PM

Hay Clark what book is that?

Clark · May 1, 2014, 03:36 PM

potpourri of single shot rifles and actions frank haas 1993

Good luck finding that.

April 30, 2014, 05:46 AM	#1
Lakota Member Join Date: March 14, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 58	Savage 219 b 30-30 Broke firing pin Well I took that sweet 219 to the range the other day to try it out. Put on my ear plugs and safety glasses. Lock and load one round 30-30. Tucked her into my shoulder real nice and got cross hair on target took a breath let some out and squeezed the trigger and click let it sit for a few. Open the breach round flew out about 6' behind me. Picked it up and no firing pin mark. Does any one know how and if it is hard to fix. I ordered a new pin but I don't know if I should attempt to fix it or have a Smith do it.

May 1, 2014, 01:55 PM	#9
Lakota Member Join Date: March 14, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 58	Found a Vintage Weaver scope for my Savage 219 b Hay Petah Thanks for the drill bit idea. A guy on another forum has a Vintage Weaver K 10 scope with mounts and rings. I bought it for $100.00 + $10.00 shipping. I hope I did as well on the scope as I did on the rifle. let me know what y'all think. You and Clark have been a great help so far. I can't wait to get it all together and try it out.

May 1, 2014, 03:36 PM	#12
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	potpourri of single shot rifles and actions frank haas 1993 Good luck finding that. __________________ The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books." "Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist. Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

April 30, 2014, 09:48 AM	#2
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. You've found out why the Savage 219/220 should never be dry-fired............... The FP's are not hard to change (I got several from Numrich), but does take a little skill & manual dexterity. Remove the barrel, forend & buttstock (throughbolt under the buttplate/pad). Ensure the action is cocked, or cock it via levering the cocking rod next to the forward action sidewall "up". The cocking will expose a small hole through the rearmost end of the mainspring strut - which should be temporarily pinned, before pulling the trigger to release the MS tension. Remove the small FP retainer ( side of the upper action, even with the FP hole in the breechface), R&R the FP, remove the MS strut pin & re-cock the action. ALWAYS "prove" the repair via snapping the FP/trigger on a primed/empty cartridge, since AFAIK, there are no .30-30 (or .22H) snap caps. .

April 30, 2014, 11:50 AM	#3
Lakota Member Join Date: March 14, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 58	Petah Thanks again. It seams you are the only one that knows any thing about these little rifles. I didn't dry fire it, but I got it at a pawn shop and there ain't no telling how many times it had been dry fired. I actually don't dry fire any of my guns. I guess I should have gone over it a little closer. I was just so intrigued with it and to get it for $125.00 I never thought to look that close. I did order two pins from Numrich yesterday. I have another question My Stevens 94c 410 receiver, accepts and locks in the barrel from the savage 219b and fires a empty 30-30 case should they be interchangeable.? and is it safe.

April 30, 2014, 04:50 PM	#5
Lakota Member Join Date: March 14, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 58	Thanks Clark The diagram is nice but there are a bunch of numbers that don't say what parts they are. But believe me I do appreciate the cutaway to see what it looks like from the side. Petah said something about a small hole in through the rearmost end of the main spring strut. But I am not sure which is the main spring strut. I have looked all over for a small hole but I can't find it. Thanks I do appreciate any help. Whip

April 30, 2014, 07:20 PM	#7
Lakota Member Join Date: March 14, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 58	Thanks Clark I truly appreciate yours and Pethas input. I will let y'all know how it works out.

May 1, 2014, 11:52 AM	#8
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. The MS strut is the straight rod that the MS is wrapped around, which keeps MS from bending into a curve/etc during cocking/compression. If the MS strut on your M219 is lacking the little hole I referred to, just cock the rifle (aka" compress the MS) and use a drill bit or something else to hold the MS in the compressed condition while switching out the FP. Buy a Lone Ranger mask - you stole that 219B. .

May 1, 2014, 02:02 PM	#11
Lakota Member Join Date: March 14, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 58	Hay Clark what book is that?