Improvised Defensive Weapons in Actual Practice - Page 2

Glenn E. Meyer · December 31, 2013, 04:57 PM

I don't necessarily think folks who don't buy guns are necessarily antigun. It is a difficult decision. Do I think you should - sure. But not going out and immediately buying a gun - I'm not going to denounce them.

Strafer Gott · December 31, 2013, 06:52 PM

Stick to twenty-five bucks in quarters in a sock and chump-change them into submission is all I have.

GM1967 · December 31, 2013, 10:04 PM

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they reside in the UK.

That means they would have been punished more severely for having and using a firearm than the perp would have been if he had raped the wife

That's just.....astonishing. How can the government be so uncaring of its citizens? And how can any rational person remain living in such a system?

Edit: just found out that the quote was wrong in this case; the people in the article live in Washington, not the UK. However, my point still stands about the UK laws. Unbelievable.

Deaf Smith · January 1, 2014, 06:09 PM

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That's just.....astonishing. How can the government be so uncaring of its citizens? And how can any rational person remain living in such a system?

They do care, they care for the rift-raff. See there is plenty of votes in that rift-raft and their families. So they don't want them hurt.

Deaf

Glenn E. Meyer · January 2, 2014, 12:19 PM

Rants about politics aren't a T and T thing. Keep it on the tactical situation please.

Hint!

Deaf Smith · January 2, 2014, 07:52 PM

I've been to a few UK self defense websites.

Tommy Carruthers in particular (he is a JKD partitioner who is very very good.)

Sadly they talk about metal pens to carry cause in the UK any 'offensive' weapon is banned. And 'offensive' weapon there is anything designed to be used as a weapon. Plus things like hammers and box cutters can only be carried while performing one's job.

And yes, a sock of quarters (or shillings) are considered to be a weapon if in your possession while outside the home.

BTW, they say in the UK head butts are used alot on the street.

Deaf

Buzzcook · January 2, 2014, 09:04 PM

Just like to point out that by definition an improvised weapon is unplanned. It's something in the environment that a person would seize on at the moment.

While a sock full of loose change or various versions of sticks make effective weapons, if you plan on their use ahead of time they are not improvised.

I'd think, instead of talking about specific weapons, it'd be better to talk about general types of weapons and their use.

Hand held weapons break down into smash, hack, or poke, and jello.

Tipsy Mcstagger · January 2, 2014, 11:35 PM

Dirty syringes. While it may not stop them immediately, what could be worse than the cruel ravages of bloodborne pathogens extended over time?

But seriously, I have thought of what in a household could be used when we might be at our most vulnerable.
Possibilities: toilet tank lid was my most inventive, shower curtain rod, lamp, fire poker, wine bottle, curtain rod, mop, broom, tumblers, skillet, plates and dishes, screwdriver, tp holder. While most of these surely wouldn't incapacitate a determined intruder it might buy you some time to get to your gun or get out. I've been knocked out by a dude who hit me with a stone in his hand. Hey, it worked.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 3, 2014, 10:24 AM

We are now in stupid territory so I'm calling this one.

Closed

December 31, 2013, 04:57 PM	#26
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	I don't necessarily think folks who don't buy guns are necessarily antigun. It is a difficult decision. Do I think you should - sure. But not going out and immediately buying a gun - I'm not going to denounce them. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 2, 2014, 12:19 PM	#30
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Rants about politics aren't a T and T thing. Keep it on the tactical situation please. Hint! __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 2, 2014, 07:52 PM	#31
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	I've been to a few UK self defense websites. Tommy Carruthers in particular (he is a JKD partitioner who is very very good.) Sadly they talk about metal pens to carry cause in the UK any 'offensive' weapon is banned. And 'offensive' weapon there is anything designed to be used as a weapon. Plus things like hammers and box cutters can only be carried while performing one's job. And yes, a sock of quarters (or shillings) are considered to be a weapon if in your possession while outside the home. BTW, they say in the UK head butts are used alot on the street. Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

January 3, 2014, 10:24 AM	#34
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	We are now in stupid territory so I'm calling this one. Closed __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

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December 31, 2013, 06:52 PM	#27
Strafer Gott Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,315	Stick to twenty-five bucks in quarters in a sock and chump-change them into submission is all I have.

January 2, 2014, 09:04 PM	#32
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Just like to point out that by definition an improvised weapon is unplanned. It's something in the environment that a person would seize on at the moment. While a sock full of loose change or various versions of sticks make effective weapons, if you plan on their use ahead of time they are not improvised. I'd think, instead of talking about specific weapons, it'd be better to talk about general types of weapons and their use. Hand held weapons break down into smash, hack, or poke, and jello.

January 2, 2014, 11:35 PM	#33
Tipsy Mcstagger Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2013 Location: South Texas Posts: 190	Dirty syringes. While it may not stop them immediately, what could be worse than the cruel ravages of bloodborne pathogens extended over time? But seriously, I have thought of what in a household could be used when we might be at our most vulnerable. Possibilities: toilet tank lid was my most inventive, shower curtain rod, lamp, fire poker, wine bottle, curtain rod, mop, broom, tumblers, skillet, plates and dishes, screwdriver, tp holder. While most of these surely wouldn't incapacitate a determined intruder it might buy you some time to get to your gun or get out. I've been knocked out by a dude who hit me with a stone in his hand. Hey, it worked.