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Old May 31, 2020, 09:00 AM   #1
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Who clocks their grip screws? & bonus ?

I admit it - Mr. Superanal here, is a diehard screw clocker.

That's a given.

The real question - is the bonus - which is:
12 & 6
or

3 and 9?
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Old May 31, 2020, 09:17 AM   #2
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@Hal: No, I don't time my grip screws. But...this begs another question: How do you time your screws? Do you shim the screw head? Do you grind off a small amount of the screw? Some of my grip screws are pretty short and there's not a lot to work with. Plus on some aftermarket wood grips, the screw hole thickness is not uniform, either top to bottom or right to left grip panel. Each screw would have to be unique for that hole. I'm not doubting you, I just don't know how it's done. I always enjoy learning things here.
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Old May 31, 2020, 10:05 AM   #3
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London Best screws have thick heads and shallow slots for assembly. Heads are thinned to contour and slotted in line as the action is filed up.
One of the big bucks 1911 builders offers timed screws but I don't know how he does it.

The answer is 17 degrees, aligned with the grip frame.
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Old May 31, 2020, 12:59 PM   #4
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@ Hammie - There's usually enough flex in the grip panels that the screws can be snugged to the same positions.
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Old May 31, 2020, 02:31 PM   #5
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Over torqueing to achieve aligned screw slots may not be the best idea. Some pistols have very thin frames, example the Ruger Mk series .22's. Stripping the screw hole may be the result.
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Old June 1, 2020, 12:48 AM   #6
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Ya think maybe we over think these things once in a while?
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Old June 1, 2020, 12:50 AM   #7
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I admit it - Mr. Superanal here, is a diehard screw clocker.

That's a given.
I can be a bit obsessive-compulsive myself. For which reason it would never occur to me to try to "clock" the grip screws, because that would mean they won't be set to the same torque.
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Old June 1, 2020, 03:09 AM   #8
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No.

I don't have the tools for it and I don't have any sufficiently fancy firearms for that sort of thing anyways.
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Old June 1, 2020, 04:37 AM   #9
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was taught by and old German cabinet maker screwing in a piano hinge to align all the screws to be parallel to hinge...shin screws ,ergo in a boat all screws go 12 ,,,6 o'clock so water drips through,,,and electrician told me on an outlet cover 12 n 6 also. sign of a professional
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Old June 1, 2020, 05:31 AM   #10
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I like the look of clocked screw heads, but it is never anything that I intentally set out to go after. I'd rather them just be tight and not cause any issues with over torque.
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Old June 1, 2020, 07:26 AM   #11
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I never thought of clocking the screws until now. After pondering this for better part of a minute I don't think I'll do much clocking of my screws. But I bet it looks nice.
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Old June 5, 2020, 08:50 PM   #12
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To each his own...not for me the 'clocking' of the screws...YMMv Rod
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Old June 5, 2020, 11:16 PM   #13
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oh no, I wish you hadn't mentioned clocking screw heads. Now I won't be able to help but notice the screw heads on my outlets when I pass by. I see why some go to hex head screws, they stand out less visually.
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Old June 6, 2020, 03:30 AM   #14
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oh no, I wish you hadn't mentioned clocking screw heads. Now I won't be able to help but notice the screw heads on my outlets when I pass by.
LOL!
Just yesterday, my wife and I were at one of our rentals.
My wife had taken care of repainting the whole place & just as I'd taught her...she had removed all the outlet covers & switchplates to paint the walls.

I just smiled as I noticed - she had clocked all the screws on every single one - through the whole house @ 12/6 .

( I really shouldn't tease her like that.....she's become a fair shot over the 39 years we've been married)
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Old June 7, 2020, 07:14 AM   #15
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I have never even heard of such a thing as "clocking your screws".
So many more important things to worry about.
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Old June 7, 2020, 07:16 AM   #16
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I use hex head screws so.........

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Old June 8, 2020, 05:21 AM   #17
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I use hex head screws so.........
That's what's on my Kimber. But, even those have an orientation... ( I know because I just checked them out )
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Old June 8, 2020, 06:47 AM   #18
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was taught by and old German cabinet maker screwing in a piano hinge to align all the screws to be parallel to hinge...shin screws ,ergo in a boat all screws go 12 ,,,6 o'clock so water drips through,,,and electrician told me on an outlet cover 12 n 6 also. sign of a professional
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What does ",,," mean?
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Old June 8, 2020, 08:09 AM   #19
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I don't buy this stuff at all.
Metal screws have a very small amount of variation due to the elements.
Yes, contraction in extreme cold, and expansion in extreme heat.
But wood is much more effected by the temperature, the humidity, the type of wood...
To say "all metal screws, in wood, should be at 6 o'clock, regardless of all other factors is nonsense.

Ever had a door that sticks when the humidity is high...but it works fine with just a small adjustment of one or two screws...and all the hinge screws are not perfectly in sync?
It happens every day.

If a gun maker tried to use the notion of "all of our grip screws are clocked to perfection", I would walk away.
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Old June 8, 2020, 09:42 AM   #20
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Ive looked at all my M&Ps and Glocks....i cant find these grip screws you speak of
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Old June 8, 2020, 09:58 AM   #21
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If a gun maker tried to use the notion of "all of our grip screws are clocked to perfection", I would walk away.
Reid Coffield thinks it's a great idea.

He even wrote a "how to" on it.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editor...cial%20shotgun.
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