Anyone carry a Walther PPQ?

OhioGuy · September 13, 2017, 04:29 PM

I've carried an XD Mod.2 subcompact, and I also have a Walther PPS single-stack. My range/competition gun is a 5" PPQ M2 (the Q5 model). I love that gun! I shoot it better than any other model from any other manufacturer so far. I was telling someone this the other night, and opining how nice it would be to change my XD trigger to be more like Walther's, or how great it'd be if the PPS were a double-stack...when he said "Why don't you just carry a PPQ?"

It's a whole lot bigger than anything I've carried before, but it's about on par with a Glock 19...maybe a touch longer in the grip. I carry AIBW around the 1:30 position. I know some hybrid holsters worn at 4:30-ish conceal well, but I often need to get the gun on and off due to the places I have to visit...so something easily removed and inserted would be great.

My biggest concerns, I guess, would be concealing the long-ish grip, and the longer muzzle digging into my leg when I sit. But lots of people carry G19s AIWB and are quite happy doing so.

Anyone carry the PPQ? Or have recommendations on how to get a gun that size to work for carry?

HighValleyRanch · September 13, 2017, 05:11 PM

Try carrying more at 12 o'clock or just to the right of centerline. That way, the barrel won't poke your thigh. Also try a Universal clip draw and trigger guard holster combo. This would eliminate the bulk of a holster and clip. This would give a much flatter package and use a secure belt to hold it flat.

The 5" PPQ looks closer to the glock 17 than the 19 in size.

OhioGuy · September 13, 2017, 05:47 PM

Actually the grip length is the same across all PPQ models.

In this scenario I would get the standard 4" PPQ. Should've said that

HighValleyRanch · September 13, 2017, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Actually the grip length is the same across all PPQ models.

I don't have one, but the PPQ website specs say height is 5.3" and the glock 17 is 5.4" whereas the glock 19 height is 4.99 inches.

OhioGuy · September 13, 2017, 06:25 PM

Huh. I guess in that case the PPQ is kinda in between.

Walther does make a "mini PPQ" called the CCP, but it takes a single stack mag! Why make a double stack gun that holds 8 rounds?

stephen426 · September 13, 2017, 06:42 PM

The PPQ is a great shooting gun. If you can figure out how to carry a gun that size, I think you would be very well armed, especially with an extra mag or two. I've been carrying for some time now and I hate small of back carry. I spend part of my time in an office and part moving around. Small of back is fine when standing, especially if it is at a cant, but sitting for any period of time is hard.

I prefer 3-4 o'clock carry (right handed) since it is fast to draw and easy to protect from gun grabs. With that said, I had to go with a sub-compact gun so the grip would not stick out. I carry with a clip only as HighValleyRanch mentioned. It is thinner than any holster and pretty versatile. Don't wear your belt too tight or wear very tight pants because it will bother you after a while.

I suggest you get a training gun or something around that size to carry around the house and see how it feels. You will be very subconscious initially, but dress in dark colors and it will blend in. Best of luck to you!

Uncle Malice · September 13, 2017, 06:55 PM

I carry mine AIWB frequently. I use a Tulster Profile holster or similar style. Kydex with stiff belt clip.

OhioGuy · September 13, 2017, 07:06 PM

Maybe I need to learn to wear winter coats all year long!

Tulster lists a holster for the PPS, but not PPQ. I have the PPS and it's very easy to carry.

Uncle Malice · September 13, 2017, 07:21 PM

I love in Phoenix and work in tech (i.e. - casual). The vast majority of the year is shorts and the shirt weather for me. Sometimes jeans and a hoodie if I ride my motorcycle. No issues concealing a full size gun.

I was paranoid when I first started carrying almost a decade ago. I always thought I was printing. I thought everyone knew. The truth is that nobody knows. Your average person isn't long at you closely enough to notice a tiny crease in your shirt where the but of the gun may show in certain angles. Those that are looking that closely and can tell are probably also carrying. I'm much more observant and can pick out minor changes in posture or other queues that indicate a person is carrying.

If you're not comfortable with a bigger gun, no need to carry one. Enjoy the PPS, it's great! But it's not difficult to carry a bigger gun. Just gotta find the type of holsters and position that works for your body.

Tulster doesn't make one for the PPQ, but other companies make the same style holster. I anyways get his if it's a gun he makes the holster for, but that is the style I prefer. Cheers!

Areoflyer09 · September 13, 2017, 07:22 PM

I'm not carrying my PPQ yet. Need to get the holster ordered first. I had one the Black Ar h Holsters for my P938 so I will go with them again for the PPQ.

https://www.blackarchholsters.com/co...walther-ppq-m2

Pinky Carruthers · September 13, 2017, 07:55 PM

I usually carry a PPS but I carried a P99 for years in a Bladetech holster at 4 o'clock.

hodaka · September 13, 2017, 08:09 PM

I have both a PPS and a PPQ. I mostly carry the PPQ in an Aliengear holster.

Fishbed77 · September 15, 2017, 09:19 AM

You should look into the Walther P99C AS. It's essentially a PPQ (the PPQ just being a variant of the P99 with revised trigger and aesthetics) in Glock 26 size, but with a better trigger.

Like the P99AS, it uses Walter's DA/SA "Anti-Stress" trigger, which frankly makes it safer for carry than the PPQ trigger.

sigarms228 · September 15, 2017, 10:35 AM

While I usually CCW my Walther PPS these days I still CCW my Walther PPQ 9MM from time to time in a JM Custom Kydex IWB model 4 holster. I only CCW SF pistols in an all kydex holster because of their superior retention, easy holstering, and full coverage of trigger guard.

Snuffy308 · September 20, 2017, 05:23 AM

I've got a aiwb kydex for a PPQ but just haven't crossed that threshold into carrying it. The trigger is just a little "too good" if you know what I mean. I know it's a little irrational fear on my part because I have no problem carrying other sf with no manual safety at aiwb such as glocks or s&w. Even carry a no safety s&w 40c and it has a trigger that is scary light with almost no pretravel. Kinda like the first time you carried a 1911 cocked and locked ( which I now do and have done for years on occasion).

mrdaputer · September 20, 2017, 06:39 AM

I carry 9mm m1 in the 3:30 position with a slight cant in my Theis holster. I use to be a XD guy till I tried a Walther.

Fishbed77 · September 20, 2017, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Walther does make a "mini PPQ" called the CCP, but it takes a single stack mag!

The CCP is in no way a "mini PPQ." Is a completely different, gas-delayed-blowback design made by Umarex. It is also a much lower-quality firearm than the PPQ.

September 13, 2017, 04:29 PM	#1
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	Anyone carry a Walther PPQ? I've carried an XD Mod.2 subcompact, and I also have a Walther PPS single-stack. My range/competition gun is a 5" PPQ M2 (the Q5 model). I love that gun! I shoot it better than any other model from any other manufacturer so far. I was telling someone this the other night, and opining how nice it would be to change my XD trigger to be more like Walther's, or how great it'd be if the PPS were a double-stack...when he said "Why don't you just carry a PPQ?" It's a whole lot bigger than anything I've carried before, but it's about on par with a Glock 19...maybe a touch longer in the grip. I carry AIBW around the 1:30 position. I know some hybrid holsters worn at 4:30-ish conceal well, but I often need to get the gun on and off due to the places I have to visit...so something easily removed and inserted would be great. My biggest concerns, I guess, would be concealing the long-ish grip, and the longer muzzle digging into my leg when I sit. But lots of people carry G19s AIWB and are quite happy doing so. Anyone carry the PPQ? Or have recommendations on how to get a gun that size to work for carry?

September 13, 2017, 05:11 PM	#2
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	Try carrying more at 12 o'clock or just to the right of centerline. That way, the barrel won't poke your thigh. Also try a Universal clip draw and trigger guard holster combo. This would eliminate the bulk of a holster and clip. This would give a much flatter package and use a secure belt to hold it flat. The 5" PPQ looks closer to the glock 17 than the 19 in size. __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

September 13, 2017, 06:42 PM	#6
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	The PPQ is a great shooting gun. If you can figure out how to carry a gun that size, I think you would be very well armed, especially with an extra mag or two. I've been carrying for some time now and I hate small of back carry. I spend part of my time in an office and part moving around. Small of back is fine when standing, especially if it is at a cant, but sitting for any period of time is hard. I prefer 3-4 o'clock carry (right handed) since it is fast to draw and easy to protect from gun grabs. With that said, I had to go with a sub-compact gun so the grip would not stick out. I carry with a clip only as HighValleyRanch mentioned. It is thinner than any holster and pretty versatile. Don't wear your belt too tight or wear very tight pants because it will bother you after a while. I suggest you get a training gun or something around that size to carry around the house and see how it feels. You will be very subconscious initially, but dress in dark colors and it will blend in. Best of luck to you! __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

September 13, 2017, 06:55 PM	#7
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	I carry mine AIWB frequently. I use a Tulster Profile holster or similar style. Kydex with stiff belt clip. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

September 13, 2017, 07:21 PM	#9
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	I love in Phoenix and work in tech (i.e. - casual). The vast majority of the year is shorts and the shirt weather for me. Sometimes jeans and a hoodie if I ride my motorcycle. No issues concealing a full size gun. I was paranoid when I first started carrying almost a decade ago. I always thought I was printing. I thought everyone knew. The truth is that nobody knows. Your average person isn't long at you closely enough to notice a tiny crease in your shirt where the but of the gun may show in certain angles. Those that are looking that closely and can tell are probably also carrying. I'm much more observant and can pick out minor changes in posture or other queues that indicate a person is carrying. If you're not comfortable with a bigger gun, no need to carry one. Enjoy the PPS, it's great! But it's not difficult to carry a bigger gun. Just gotta find the type of holsters and position that works for your body. Tulster doesn't make one for the PPQ, but other companies make the same style holster. I anyways get his if it's a gun he makes the holster for, but that is the style I prefer. Cheers! __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

September 13, 2017, 05:47 PM	#3
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	Actually the grip length is the same across all PPQ models. In this scenario I would get the standard 4" PPQ. Should've said that

September 13, 2017, 06:25 PM	#5
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	Huh. I guess in that case the PPQ is kinda in between. Walther does make a "mini PPQ" called the CCP, but it takes a single stack mag! Why make a double stack gun that holds 8 rounds?

September 13, 2017, 07:06 PM	#8
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	Maybe I need to learn to wear winter coats all year long! Tulster lists a holster for the PPS, but not PPQ. I have the PPS and it's very easy to carry.

September 13, 2017, 07:22 PM	#10
Areoflyer09 Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2017 Posts: 300	I'm not carrying my PPQ yet. Need to get the holster ordered first. I had one the Black Ar h Holsters for my P938 so I will go with them again for the PPQ. https://www.blackarchholsters.com/co...walther-ppq-m2

September 13, 2017, 07:55 PM	#11
Pinky Carruthers Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2004 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 649	I usually carry a PPS but I carried a P99 for years in a Bladetech holster at 4 o'clock. __________________ "Love lost, fire at will Dum Dum bullets and shoot to kill I hear dive bombers, and Empire down." SOM

September 13, 2017, 08:09 PM	#12
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	I have both a PPS and a PPQ. I mostly carry the PPQ in an Aliengear holster.

September 15, 2017, 09:19 AM	#13
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	You should look into the Walther P99C AS. It's essentially a PPQ (the PPQ just being a variant of the P99 with revised trigger and aesthetics) in Glock 26 size, but with a better trigger. Like the P99AS, it uses Walter's DA/SA "Anti-Stress" trigger, which frankly makes it safer for carry than the PPQ trigger.

September 15, 2017, 10:35 AM	#14
sigarms228 Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2011 Posts: 1,768	While I usually CCW my Walther PPS these days I still CCW my Walther PPQ 9MM from time to time in a JM Custom Kydex IWB model 4 holster. I only CCW SF pistols in an all kydex holster because of their superior retention, easy holstering, and full coverage of trigger guard. __________________ “When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” ― Benjamin Franklin

September 20, 2017, 05:23 AM	#15
Snuffy308 Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2005 Posts: 220	I've got a aiwb kydex for a PPQ but just haven't crossed that threshold into carrying it. The trigger is just a little "too good" if you know what I mean. I know it's a little irrational fear on my part because I have no problem carrying other sf with no manual safety at aiwb such as glocks or s&w. Even carry a no safety s&w 40c and it has a trigger that is scary light with almost no pretravel. Kinda like the first time you carried a 1911 cocked and locked ( which I now do and have done for years on occasion).

September 20, 2017, 06:39 AM	#16
mrdaputer Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2013 Posts: 493	I carry 9mm m1 in the 3:30 position with a slight cant in my Theis holster. I use to be a XD guy till I tried a Walther.