Online Purchase of a Stripped Glock Frame

Sawyer.N · September 12, 2017, 06:07 PM

I live in washington state and I want to purchase a stripped glock 19 frame from a website. The website says that it must be done through an FFL, but as I started the checkout process it gave me no FFL option, and was ready to ship it to my home.

Is this illegal? I have searched high and low through WA state laws and found nothing to help me determine if this is illegal or legal. Anybody with some insight into this would be of great help. Thanks.

TunnelRat · September 12, 2017, 06:15 PM

A lot of online vendors will ask for shipping information simply because it's part of their standard form. Usually they'll have a notification that you need to contact them with the FFL information. Assuming this is a serialized lower and not say an 80% completed one then yes you will need to go through an FFL. It's likely worth calling the company and asking. Most businesses don't openly flaunt the law and likely any questions you have will be answered.

Sawyer.N · September 12, 2017, 08:50 PM

Good point, I'll just call them. Dont know why I didn't think of that :P

**44 AMP** · September 12, 2017, 09:19 PM

The serial numbered part (usually the frame) IS the pistol, under the law.

Doesn't matter if it has all the parts to be functional, or none of the, the frame is legally the gun, and the same rules apply to it as a fully assembled and functional firearm. Federal law, the transfer has to go through an FFL.

Wa state law, an FFL will need to run a background check on YOU, before he can give you the gun.

If you are of legal age, and have a clean record, there should be no problems.

YOU will need to find a local FFL willing to do the transfer, and the FFL will send a signed copy of his license to the shipping FFL. Once that is received, the gun will ship, or frame, in this case...

Sawyer.N · September 12, 2017, 09:23 PM

44 AMP,

Thank you for that information. I certainly am able to own pistols, as I already own several that I bought here in WA. I had no idea the "gun" is contained in the competent baring the serial number. Thanks for shedding some light on this.

At this rate maybe I'll just go ahead and purchase a new glock lol... or a p30

**Spats McGee** · September 13, 2017, 06:30 AM

I assume that the website would be shipping from outside of WA. As others noted, yes, this needs to go through an FFL. Gun + interstate transaction = FFL needed.

September 12, 2017, 06:07 PM	#1
Sawyer.N Member Join Date: January 25, 2017 Location: Washington state Posts: 86	Online Purchase of a Stripped Glock Frame I live in washington state and I want to purchase a stripped glock 19 frame from a website. The website says that it must be done through an FFL, but as I started the checkout process it gave me no FFL option, and was ready to ship it to my home. Is this illegal? I have searched high and low through WA state laws and found nothing to help me determine if this is illegal or legal. Anybody with some insight into this would be of great help. Thanks. Last edited by Sawyer.N; September 12, 2017 at 08:48 PM.

September 12, 2017, 06:15 PM	#2
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	A lot of online vendors will ask for shipping information simply because it's part of their standard form. Usually they'll have a notification that you need to contact them with the FFL information. Assuming this is a serialized lower and not say an 80% completed one then yes you will need to go through an FFL. It's likely worth calling the company and asking. Most businesses don't openly flaunt the law and likely any questions you have will be answered. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

September 12, 2017, 09:19 PM	#4
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	The serial numbered part (usually the frame) IS the pistol, under the law. Doesn't matter if it has all the parts to be functional, or none of the, the frame is legally the gun, and the same rules apply to it as a fully assembled and functional firearm. Federal law, the transfer has to go through an FFL. Wa state law, an FFL will need to run a background check on YOU, before he can give you the gun. If you are of legal age, and have a clean record, there should be no problems. YOU will need to find a local FFL willing to do the transfer, and the FFL will send a signed copy of his license to the shipping FFL. Once that is received, the gun will ship, or frame, in this case... __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

September 13, 2017, 06:30 AM	#6
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	I assume that the website would be shipping from outside of WA. As others noted, yes, this needs to go through an FFL. Gun + interstate transaction = FFL needed. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

September 12, 2017, 08:50 PM	#3
Sawyer.N Member Join Date: January 25, 2017 Location: Washington state Posts: 86	Good point, I'll just call them. Dont know why I didn't think of that :P

September 12, 2017, 09:23 PM	#5
Sawyer.N Member Join Date: January 25, 2017 Location: Washington state Posts: 86	44 AMP, Thank you for that information. I certainly am able to own pistols, as I already own several that I bought here in WA. I had no idea the "gun" is contained in the competent baring the serial number. Thanks for shedding some light on this. At this rate maybe I'll just go ahead and purchase a new glock lol... or a p30