Palmetto State VS Windham Weaponry

[Fishbed77]

OK, I'll bite, what's "better" than mil-spec? A NiB coated BCG?

It's all subjective, but there's clearly a huge market of guns and accessories out there that folks are willing to pay for that they feel improve upon the mil-spec stuff.

It's hard to argue that a Magpul stock with a friction lock and nice ergos, for example, doesn't improve upon the wobbly mil-spec carbine stock.

[Palmetto-Pride]

I was talking about Remington, Winchester, Browning etc regular semi auto hunting rifles. Not militry garands and military carbine's. Civilian rifles are not mil-spec and they work fine and last for years.

You are comparing apple and oranges here. Those semi auto hunting rifles probably don't get shot 30 times a year after they are sighted in and most ARs do that after one magazine. I always find it funny when people try to make there point by comparing two totally different things.

[Bamashooter]

Who out there knows of a company making parts for AR's that arent milspec or better in quality? Just curious if anyone can name companies specifically.

[Justice06RR]

Its really a toss-up between the 2. PSA has excellent products but its hit-or-miss with their customer service, although mostly good IF you get lucky.

here's a thread on PSA
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=503373

[madcratebuilder]

Who out there knows of a company making parts for AR's that arent milspec or better in quality? Just curious if anyone can name companies specifically.

The problem is getting the TDP from Colt. Parts of the TDP have been made available. The spec for barrels, bolts, bolt carriers, RE's uppers and lowers are known.

Companies that do not use mil-spec, a incomplete list, DPMS, Bush Master, S&W, Ruger, Windham and many others. No 4150 steel barrels, no C158 bolts, no HPT-MPI. Does it make a difference to 99%+ of shooters. NO.

I do prefer to have a mil-spec BCG and RE, I'm good with stainless or 4140 barrels.

It's all subjective, but there's clearly a huge market of guns and accessories out there that folks are willing to pay for that they feel improve upon the mil-spec stuff.

It's hard to argue that a Magpul stock with a friction lock and nice ergos, for example, doesn't improve upon the wobbly mil-spec carb

Agreed, aftermarket stocks and hand guards offer the end user much more versatility.

[dos0711]

4150 on the barrel



The only thing I fault is the twist rate...but it's not a deal breaker for me.

[bigdaddy123]

I've had my PSA m4 for 2 months.Excellent finish,performs flawlessly.Has cycled every kind of ammo I've put in it.Black Hills 68 gr.HMHP are extremely accurate.Will probably get a Windham also.Gotta support these small U.S. companies.

[customaquatics]

for the same price i would do well i did the PSA. i mean the Windam can't shoot heavier grain rounds as well as the PSA will but the bad thing is the FN barrels are kinda expensive. i seen em going as high as $300 but i guess you can't beat quality get the PSA its got the or mine came with the thick M-16 full auto bolt carrier too.